For what its worth.... I have found success with mega doses of gear... but have found results just as impressive with lower doses after figuring proper RATIOS... Tren E , for example gives me great results with just a half ML EOD.. I mix with a half ML of Test E..( Strange shedule, but that works best for me....obviously combined with other compounds).
Point---- you may not need to blast the way you think you do.
Proceed methodically and slowly.

if you posted in this thread and it is now gone its been copied and pasted in the advanced steroid section where it belongs, where members that should be able to view have been cleared to do so, and so that its not in organic view where anybody not even logged into eroids can see. Im sure you can understand why we keep that kind of talk off the organic sections. thanks...

You guys can feel free to talk about it in depth over there!

Its good to read stuff like this from time to time even if it gives you the creeps, reminds you that you are playing a dangerous game every time you cycle.

I recently got myself a bp monitor and heart support supplements and my latest decision has been to forbid myself a lot of different compounds. From now on the only i will ever use are average dose test (500-600mg per week), var and primo. I dont care how expensive they are, the less sides the better.

Funny that when some guys ask about primo or var just say "results not worth for the money, better to use tren or deca+dbol..." but i say... how about health??? People seem to keep it on a side when it should be the main concern.

It's a good read, but it's not like it's a secret. ANYTHING TAKEN IN LARGE DOSES CAN KILL YOU, ever watch, "Bigger, Stronger, Faster?" Had a Doc reading off things people went to the E.R. for ABUSING, think steroids were high on that list?? They weren't, in fact Vitamin C was well above AAS....

Point is we all know what we're doing, even with a moderate dose of say 500mg of Test cycled CORRECTLY year after year, all the right support supplements in the world, ai, time off, etc.,,,, AAS Can have negative effects on the heart, bottom line. But with AAS being illegal, the studies needed to prove this WRONG OR RIGHT will unfortunately not be getting done.

diuretics, insulin, abuse and misuse of toxic orals, abuse of pain killers and prescription medication- if you do a bit of research its mainly the pain killers that get them, also there is usually some kind of illicit, recreational drug amongst the mist.

testosterone- prescribed and used year round for trt- does it kill you?

diuretics like dnp- yeah- it can kill you

insulin- yep, can kill you

running anadrol/ winstrol/ dbol/ superdrol year round no supports- abuse- yeah will get you.

steroids used as intended, in moderation, safely, properly and not abused- fine.

"steroids dont kill people, abusing steroids kills people" Taking something, anything, to the extreme heightens the risk. Pushing the limits is exactly that...there are limits in place in every aspect of life. Some are willing, I say that loosely...in some cases once you pass that threshold I believe you might be incapable of logical actions due to a blind addiction/obsession. But some are willing to live in the complete NOW. Good and bad. Myself in my earlier more reckless years I was guilty of mass amounts. I grew fast and large...but I could literally feel death brewing inside my body. That's when I knew I didn't have the commitment to keep going in that direction. Maybe for superheavyweights...they reach that point and shake hands with it and continue. That is the so called deal with the devil perhaps. That is why in this sport they are pros and I would and could never be. If you think about it though in every sport...elites can and often pay the price. I categorize bodybuilding as an extreme sport and should be looked at as such and nothing should be taken away from the athletes...I will be happy with my low doses and give major respect to the men and women that have the bravery and fortitude to be the mass monsters they are. The athletes I look to for motivation on YouTube...who I read about in a magazine...but know I will never become. They are amazing people!

Yes sir some scary shit but what do you expect these guys never came off on all year round run massive cycles shits all gonna catch up to you sooner or later.

Scary shit.

All things in moderation, I guesse.