posted Thu, 07/10/2014 - 23:50
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Cycle finisher - which oral?
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Hello,
I am on my first sust 250mg e3d cycle. I am thinking of adding an oral for four weeks as a finisher leading to my pct. I am between Anavar, and Tbol. (both are difficult to get legit unfortunatelly).
I also have thought of using Sdrol for 2-3 weeks (as its legal where I live - you can literaly buy it at the supermarket), but I am reconsidering as a lot of really knowledgeable people here dont like it.
What do you think? Is it a good idea? Which oral would you suggest? Maybe an oral that is less counterfeight would be a better idea? (Winstrol/dbol?)
I am interested for adding a bit more muscle and gaining strength.
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zschlitz1Receptors are saturated. Just workout hard finish strong and add an oral to next cycle. You won't get much out of anything you add now. Test only for first cycle is good enough.
I agree, but its not so much there saturated, the body has just adapted and is less responsive and the body typically raises levels of myostatin around weeks 8-12 for most people except the people that just respond great to hormones. Ive tired this before, didnt do much. I always just keep upping my cals trying to keep gaining and i end up getting fat. So I'm all about shorter cycles less then 10 weeks with short esters so i get the full benefit of the hormone before my body fucks me.
Ummmm, no, I HIGHLY doubt his receptors are "saturated" from running sustanon at 580mg/w for the last 12 weeks.
Rustyhooker580?
M...thurs....sun is 750
yes but following week is wed, sat. and then tue, fri....7 shots and 3 weeks before cycle gets back to monday.
7x250=1750/3=583mg/w
RustyhookerAhhh.. Sorry i forgot the offset.
Thanks a lot for your reply. That is what I am thinking.
NONE.... in my opinion you need to control food intake...... @250mg EOD thats 1 gram every 12 days and now you are asking for muscle and strength?..... sounds to me you need to learn about feeding AAS whilst ON cycle.
Its 250mg e3d not eod. It works out at 580mg per week. I dont want to gain a lot of weight while on test as I am competing soon, and putting in 10-15lbs will put me out of competition for at least a year or so. I want to utilize it mainly for the recovery and the increased strength/aggression while trying to lean out a little bit.
Ive been competing naturally at a national level for at least 12 years or so. I think that my training and nutrition is spot on.
How many weeks into the cycle are you? I think it's 4 weeks from another of your posts. Bro, steroids don't generally contribute to weight loss and I don't think using an oral finisher on your first cycle is gonna avail much at your current body fat percentage. If you want to harden up you will need to change your diet.
4 weeks into cycle. I am going strong getting leaner and hitting numbers much more easier than before. My diet is quite decent I believe. I am doing what I was doing natural (carb cycling). It keeps the weight down (as I compete at the 198lbs class while getting stronger/leaner.
Save your cash for food post cycle to keep your gains (better than any steroid could).
What are your stats mate?
192lbs, 15-16% bodyfat. Looking to drop bf and gain a bit of strength. I am into powerlifting (but want to look good).
How old are you out of interest mate? Go buy yourself 10kg's worth of chicken breast and get eating! Watch the gains flood in.
I am 28yo. As I compete in a sport with weight classes. I dont want to gain 10-20lbs. I eat plenty of protein (250g++ per day). Ive been training and competing naturally for 12 years.
IronMonkSdrol eats shit. Var finisher is best mate
Lol, wut.
What are your goals? Prior cycle history? Are you trying to add more mass?? Anavar will give you a more hard defined look with some strength gains. IMO most people use tbol to kick start a cycle.
My goals are to lose fat, and gain strength. I am 28 years old. This is my first cycle. Diet and training are spot on.
If this is your first cycle all together drop the sust, and go with test e or test c 500mg split into two injections a week. Sust can be a harsh compound with bad sides for some . Only start out with one compound because of you encounter harsh sides you will not know from what compound they came from. Also get yourself some adex incase you encounter estrogen sides and nolvadex and clomid for pct.
I have 0 sides from sustanon. I have AI and PCT in place.
You know sustanon is just assorted long and short test esters right?
Yeah I know, I've read from numerous guys on here that have had harsh sides from sust , but everyone is different.