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I really have not been active recently but I come back to see the use of said tag has again changed.
A good group of you are being condescending and acting like mini mods instead of what all advanced tags used to be. Acting like a bigger brother member. Helping people and only flagging people when extremely necessary.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm by no means an expert or a veteran. But nor do I go around acting like one or flaming people.
someone put it to me pretty well. What has changed since you first got here and started juicing a year ago that gives you the right to be condescending to other members? who may have a legitimate question that you yourself may have asked on this site when you first arrived?
P.S. Let's not have every advanced tag in here up in arms. Those of you who help in a productive way, you know who you are. As well as those who think the tag alone gives them the knowledge of the steroid gods, you know who you are
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I spend most of my time here in the forums and I don't see much of what you're talking about. The SI pages can be a different story.
I don't get too caught up in tags. There are tons of guys here that are great and they all have different things to add. Some have a few karma points and others have EXP tags. If someone has something to add to a thread, I'm always up to reading it and learning from it.
I usually notice it's when new folks show up here and they're looking for a co-sign and they start being disrespectful, that's when things start to go south, but I think it's warranted in most situations.
I do think everyone does need a reminder from time to time to be respectful and helpful, because that is what eroids is all about and why we're all here.
Apart from the idiots just looking for a cosigner who need to be yelled at the forums aren't bad. It really is just the SIs that any of this happens in my opinion
There's not an excuse to act badly in the SI, regardless of your tag. That is a place where many new members go for help on many issues and we should take the time to be more helpful.
It can be tough at times with all the fanboys, but it still needs to be done.
Glad im not part of that group, those advanced guys got a lot to live up too!
No but you are like the retired sheriff who will beat your ass to put you in your place still
They took your gun but forgot to take your badge
I think its the avi that gives me away, i need to change that up someday!
Dang, ya know I am still awaiting all this free gear I'm supposed to get as an advanced tag holder. My PM inbox should be filled with offers from fly by night new sources revving up their garage operations asking me to write scintillating reviews for their hot plate brewed gear.
Why I'm I being so disrespected? There is no explanation for this treatment. I get better treatment from used car dealers than these new sources. I've just been bypassed and no one has offered any explanation.
I think I'm gonna cry now. Waa. Waaa. Whoa is me. Waa.
Advanced Tag system is easy taken advantage by capitalist si gainers. As hooker and gym suggest. I recomend, be who you wish those fuck heads would be. Lead by example. I will be here to carry on with you and the masses.
Be what you want to exlimplify, we need your example!
Period.
Look man, eroids has grown exponentially and one of the truths in that is the avg members age had dropped radically. Part of being young is knowing everything while being simultaneously stupid! LOL!
I think im seeing things right now with you poking your head in here.
But hey I completely agree i am of the younger generation and as a whole we know everything and want everything now.
Obviously there are a few exceptions but it's a pretty spoiled generation
RustyhookerLately the shills working for a source have been rampant flagging their competitors. Complaints about no service, flag. Missing pack, flag. It's going to ruin a good thing. Flag was to keep sensitive info out of Le views or diffuse some bs
everyone shall bow at my feat and fetch me cheese burgers!!!!!!! bow to my tag slaves
That just made my day
But overall i agree completely I've seen guys level 1 or under have not knowkedge than exp tag
Damn it, it won't let me flag you guys.=-(
BJs flag me bro =)
I love how my phone autocorrected "BJS"
Lmfao best post of the day
Pretty sure these guys that you're talking about wouldn't show up here anyways but a very good post at any rate +1
On a second note I don't give steroid advice because I haven't figured out anything yet. Two cycles that have both been fd up from the beginning because of bad gear and poor planning. Not making excuses just stating facts. As soon as I can figure it out on my own I'll start heelping out more. So now I stick to general advice.
Edit. Not trying to say that I've done all this on my own there have been a lot of members here that have helped me get to where I am today with the knowledge I have now. You all k ow who you are and I thank you all. Sorry if I've hijacked your thread
Haha yea they'd never show. And hey I don't give advice on anything but there's norhinng wrong with knowing someone else should be giving advice and just pointing the one in need in the right direction
Honestly most of the time they already have gotten solid advice from someone well before I could even try to direct them to someone that would help.
Good post by the way. I think it has generate a lot of good discussion.
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It gets frustrating to people that try and help members. I'd say 70 percent of the time the people asking the questions only want the answers they want to hear and not the truth. I don't know how many times I've posted to someone your not ready for steroids you are 145 pounds at six foot tall and in no way condescending but to be meet with fuck u it's my body I'll do what I want. This works both ways maybe the people asking questions should be open to different answers. Then maybe the majority of the knowledgeable guys would be more incline to help. There so many trolls or kids that unfortunately the few legitimate guys with questions sometimes gets left out. It's not really fair to blast anyone in this fashion bc it's a problem on both ends
All you can do is tell them. The ones who are going to do it either way are not ones who you can stress over.
Sometimes the only way people will learn is from their own actual mistakes
Ya I never understood that but why ask questions if u don't want the answers. One other point sometimes tough love is what they need to. There some real dangerous dudes on here that have no concern about there health or safety and health of others. I'd rather have the most knowledgeable guys call out some ones bullshit than let him continue. Give u an example just the other day had a guy wanting advice on first cycle and was very respectable and truly wanted answers whatever they may be good or bad. So this new guy come in and tells this dude he needs to run test for at least six months and run dbol for 12 weeks. All that for his first cycle. So I called him out but he was new so does that make me bad or condescending? Respect is earned here in my opinion and sometimes new guys need tough love
No when someone is clearly advocating action that would be detrimental for someone's health then everyone who sees it should crucify that person on the spot. Aka the guy who said 6 months of test and dbol
Being an "asshole" to those who are going to hurt themselves ,when it's already been proven advice alone won't deter them, is completely acceptable
It really does go both ways. Unfortunately all the b.s. members endure on here make them a little more jaded towards some obvious answers that would take 30 second of research and act like dick heads. At the same time a lot of newbies just want answers that suit them and not the truth. Not really an answer on how to fix the issue. Hopefully when we get like that take some time off from posting. I have did that before interesting post plus two and I hope someone has a solution to this
It can definitely get frustrating answering the same questions over and over. I had to take a break from alot the cycle stuff and redirected my efforts towards writing some training articles and starting the comp prep group. That helps to keep things interesting and fresh.
There never will be a perfect solution. I feel it's more us as a whole realizing at one time we were those noobs who are asking the question that can be searched.
But we didn't even know that magnifying glass was a search engine for the site.
And that people who are now gone completely or are now mods and no longer have the time, pointed us in the right direction when we were those noobs
It goes both ways here. Members with smaller karma levels should be just as respectful as members with advanced tags. I know what you are talking about though. It is disheartening to see advanced tags belittling someone because of a dumb question or just ignorance. Many times it is because they are just frustrated answering the same questions over and over. On that note, I think there should be a higher standard for someone with an advanced tag, because whether you like it or not, people think that advanced tag gives you some kind knowledge that others don't have. In some cases this is true and in other cases it is not.
Here is where the root of the problem lies and that is in how the member got that advanced tag. Many are due mostly to pictures of gear or of themselves with relatively little or no forum posts or input. How does posting pictures of yourself and all the gear you bought really qualify you as an advanced member that should live up to a higher standard here? It doesn't. So here is my solution and suggestion to everyone. You need to research who you are taking advice from. I think it should be requirement for advanced tags to provide more details in their profile about their cycling experience and their diet and training knowledge. Some advanced tags are real knowledgeable in diet and training and less so in the cycling department (myself included), while others are walking steriod cycling gurus. They have been there and tried it all and have loads of real world experience. So the moral of the story here is to be cognizant of who you are taking advice from, advanced tag or not. Anyone with an advanced tag should be doing what they can to make everyones experience here a positive one.
I agree with doing your research instead of following advice blindly. A lot of new guys don't tho.
For example. You check your forums and boom there are your "maximizing your gains" forum series which in itself shows you're deservant of that tag not even taking into effect your countless other diet forums and posts in other people's threads that I've seen. While others don't even have a single forum
I wish there was a way to sort out popularity vs knowledge advanced tags but I don't have an answer. I know if I was coming to this site for the first time looking for words of wisdom I would probably put more faith in what an advanced tag had to say. It is only natural. I think this is where we have to police ourselves. Call out shitty advice whether it comes from an advanced tag or not and if shitty advice is continually being spewed by an advanced tag, maybe the mods could dock karma and get rid of that inviduals advanced tag.
all it takes is for veterans, and by veterans i mean those who have been around long enough to know better, to call out bad advice when they see it. Which I think many of us are very capable of
I agree makwa I've gotten great advice from u but others in ur rank are really lacking one thing I have gotten some great advice from lower ranking members so to me karma doesn't mean anything and ur right people should research the members activity before asking for advice well put bro
There are a ton of lower karma members who really know their stuff. That's for sure. One of the benefits of hanging out here long enough is that it is pretty easy to see who those members are and you can seek out their advice. Then there is the issue of the newb coming to the site and it is just human nature for them to gravitate towards advanced tags because their reasoning is "hey they must know their stuff because of their tag." So this is where the whole "popularity vs knowledge" issue comes into play with higher karma levels. The newbs will tend to gravitate to and trust someone with the higher karma but it can backfire on them if they end up putting faith in a popularity gained tagged vs a knowledge based advanced tag. This here again is why I would like advanced tags to provide detailed background on what they are knowledgable about and somewhere mention to newbs that they need to check the profile of someone they are taking ideas from.
So an advanced tag can be a double edged sword, with popularity on one edge and knowledge on the other. But the advanced tag is a valuable assest to this site especially for newbs initially seeking out advice for the first time (as long as they know who they are talking to).
Maybe it will help a lot more if their was a mimit to handing out karma or limiting pics I've seen some members post pics willy nilly eod and seen some new members jump up in rank cuz of this without then putting out good info. Btw I'm a big fan of ur post makwa they have helped me out a lot mainly the diets and workouts it's not all about the gear use like u told me a lot can be achieved off cycle
Good to see they are working out for you. Good examples of knowledge posts.
My bad bro, it's all that Masteron getting in my head
Haha that's the thing if you yelled at me to fix something Id probably listen. You've been here longer than me and still don't have an advanced tag either.
Also I haven't seen you condescending anyone. But masteron gives me worse aggression than tren so I can only imagine how amped up you are
If I ever reach 400 karma I swear I would request the advance tag to be removed because I am no expert it all. An yeah man, Masteron is becoming my favorite compound with no sides & a great feeling overall.
Now back to the post, I know a few of those here myself, been here long enough to figure a few things, I've seeing the guy who does one Tren run & next week he is giving advice how to run Tren lol, the dude who didn't know what an AI was & a few months later boom ADV tag lol... I see Karma like a popularity measurement rather than knowledge
You went bald 2 days after the first pin mind you ;)
Not gona lie, the hair has gotten thin. But my hair is super thick naturally, which kinda helps. God bless Rogaine lmao
Lol.
Wait a few years and it starts growing in places that has no point. I'm devolving back into an ape now I think, what the hell is the point in hair on your shoulders?
I see it more as popularity as well but new members don't have that view yet so they ask and follow those people for advice.
The other problem is there is an adv tag or two legitimately popping between. Sis and playing mod like it's their job to publicly oug someone.
Because clearly they earned the right to be feared and respected by getting 400 karma in less than a year and can now flag your posts
I guess it depends If they are just bullying people or actually letting someone know they are violating the rules. If they are just being dicks chances are others will challenge them on it.
I mean it's more going from si to si looking for fanboys to call out like they're the eroids police.
I always understood the tag and flagging ability were to protect people from themselves. Not make them mini mods yelling at anyone slightly in the wrong
Btw you made adv tag quickly when you got here, however you actually had knowledge to share and started things called forums which a lot of adv tags you look at have started none or less than 5
I made EXP pretty fast too. But I am no expert. Maybe at my gym I guess compared to the rest of the knuckleheads but by eroids standards I am far from advanced. My cycles are pretty conservative, I don't like nasty sides,lol.
It doesn't even have to be knowledge of compounds that make someone de servant if those tags though. As long there is an area theyre helpful in, gear, training, diet, somethinng they can teach others then in my mind theyre dear ant. Cause I didn't know shit when I got here and I guess I still kind of don't compared to many
I know where you've been. Eating all the food and getting huge on that deca run ;)
Lots of advanced tags nowadays Ted, not all of them held by helpful people unfortunately.
It's not even the ones who aren't helpful. By all means I respect being silent if you believe you don't have the knowledge to help. It's the ones who think that yellow tag makes them God
And that run was insane to say the least. Thank you. Never been called out more in my life haha. Also. Repping out the weight I tore my pec on once again