3cc's in the Delt
Hey kids, I'm a little reluctant to post this just because I don't want to promote bad behavior and kids trying to pin a too much oil at one time in the delt..
This morning I drew up my cocktail of test prop, test phenylprop, test E and masteron proo and the syringe was filled at 3 cc's. A pretty normal injection for me. I've got a regular site rotation and today it fell on the left Delt. This is no big deal, I've pinned 3 cc's in the Delt on a regular basis, I'm a big guy sitting at slightly above 250. I use 1.5" syringes because I like deep injections and I like to get through the scar tissue, oh yeah, and it pisses me off when I remove the pin and oil dribbles out of the hole. Hence the 1.5" pins.
At any rate, I just wanted to hear your thoughts on 3cc injections to the Delt. I know a lot of people say 1cc is max for Delt injections, just wanted all of your opinions? Am I damaging my muscle tissue unnecessarily by loading the Delt too heavy with oil? Pip is rarely if ever an issue for me.
Dumbass? Or no big deal?
All my love, no homo
Ed
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I'm not gonna call you a dumb (Norc don't flame) BUT In school I was instructed that 1ml was good and 1.5ml in a delt should be the max. BUT..... that's on an avg. person. Gear heads have notoriously large Delts.
It all depends on the size of the fella. Your Delt has 3 heads if your good with loading 3 ccs in one of them, well.... ok. But there are better places to load that much oil. The larger the area the better the absorption.
Why not 1.5 ccs in 2 of the 3?
I used to shoot 3cc's of prop and tren in my delts all the time and it never caused me any problems. I didn't run into trouble until later on down the road when I pinned 2CC's of TEST 500, and ended up with an abscess that I had to get cut and drained at the ER. Pretty much retired that spot after that incident.
Whooaaaa 2cc's test 500. Damnnn!!
can you say ouch....
Dude I'm just thinking even if it wasn't the delt. Even if it was the ol arse. I can't imagine the PIP!!! OOOOOUUUCH!!
It will take longer for your delt to absorb all the oil. Not the best method to be doing this, so why even ask?
Well, it was just a question. Last time I checked the place was a good place for people to ask questions.
I wasn't disappointed by the answers and I go t really nice input. I also liked the discussion.
So the question I have is why pop in to my thread with this dipshit comment?
I realize absorption rates are different in different injection spots, but I also pin every day. This requires a site rotation and yes, the delta are going to get hit in that rotation.
Ed ,
I seen this reply this asshole wrote this morning , and I was going to say something , but I said lol ed will , and I just got home from work and , like wtf , is wrong with these ignorant fucks .. and sorry I even said that but its the truth , nothing good to say so they spit fucking garbage out there mouths , ummm open hand
Don't sweat it brother, guys that have not run ED just don't get it. I pin my delts more than any other location and for my bro's that are just getting going that is the spot I show them to hit first. With the delt you can see what you are doing and is about the most foolproof location of all.
Couldn't have said it any better.
How the hell are you not ADV yet? We need to fix that. You are one of the most solid and knowledgeable members we have here. You guys have my permission, bump this guy!
I haven't been able to get back in the forums like i used too. Been busy with things. Thanks for the compliments bro. When I do get on here I get kind of turned off with all the know it alls running everything under the sun yet their fucking stats don't warrent it or the bashings of the newbs with real issues or the guys leading others down a shity path because they think they have everything figured out and know it all. But soon I'll be back in all the forums again.
A pleasure to bump you Tony! You are indeed a solid and most helpful member!
Much love brother (no homo). Brother Pale is spot on in his assesment!
Tony T is one of the best guys around no doubt. A close second to that Theo guy I'd say!
Lol! Thank you my dear brother! You're right up there!
One question, who is this Theo character! Lol
Much love Dudebro! Bump++
Yessir boss man.
Agreed Tony a solid dude
I will let you hang around a while longer i get the feeling im going to be having some fun.......... first thing for you to do is fill out your stats properly on your profile page before you dream of inputting on this board again.... second.. if you catch you trying to sell unverified ill burn you..... if the stats are not updated for when i come back here you will be gone.
RustyhookerBut sir, can't you see he's clearly a distributer? ;)
Some folks think distributer translates into knowledge of pinning or use. Lol
LOL... yeah you right bro my concentration lapsed for a moment.... maybe i should introduce him to a few of the top source owners that i share knowledge with on a weekly basis.... they sell ship loads of gear but still trust me for good advises.......... Go figure ;/ lmaoooo
RustyhookerHaha! Yessir, there's some brilliant folks out there. Those folks are like the old EF Hutton commercials. They speak and I'm listening.
AnonWell I want to say thankyou for this thread. My delts are pretty massive for whatever reason and this inspired me to use them as apart of my rotation. My glutes and vgs seem to be amassing scar tissue so I hit 3ccs in my left delt no problem. Even used a 25g too and I always use 23g for glutes and vgs. Cheers to 2 more rotation spots!
My pinning spots and cc 1" 27g needles.
Anterior delt- 1cc
Lateral delt- 2cc
Posterior delt- 1cc
Glute- 2cc
Tricep- 2cc
Bicep- 1cc
Outer sweep (vastus)- 1cc
I have my wife pin my rear delt but I have not done the anterior delt yet. I need to just man up and try it. Do you hold your arm straight out in front of you to pin it?
AnonI don't
Relaxed by my side
It seems to be much more visible with the arm out front, that is why I was thinking that way.
We are the lucky few!!! My fiancé does ALL my pinning for me!!! if I do them myself I tend to be sore for 24 hours bc i wiggle or shake to much. Plus when I'm dieting on daily multi inj it's just practical to have her do them for me!
2ml in each delt head +2 = 12mls in total, all done with 27G slin pins.... ZERO intra-muscular damage and the whole body is still left for heavy rotation if need be.
Fascia stretching that i see mentioned below is from pinning too much oil and actually tearing the mitochondria.... this is THE most common mistake lots of people make and then complain that they have lost a pinning spot through scar tissue build-up....... if a muscle belly that refuses to take oil anymore from scar tissue build up it needs to be rested for something like 6/8wks and it WILL become supple again and ready to re-accept oil.
Intra-muscular scarring is not like the scar tissue we have on our external body.... IM scar tissue will and does self repair at a pretty fast rate.... high protein and high collagen intake turbocharges this repair process.
Heavy massaging after pinning is lethal for tissue damage..... refrain from this activity and watch the difference.... even if you get a little lump after pinning.... just leave it alone and do not be tempted to start rubbing it or doing the stupidest, most damaging thing i ever saw written on this board..... rolling the lump with a fkn paint roller lmfaooooo.
Happy trails pin monsters....... uncle V :))
I have to ask a stupid question and wonder how you press thick ass oil through a 27g and how long of a pin are we talking about here? I use 23's on my glutes and quads but would love to try a better way.
The only oil i could not get through a slin pin was some 1000mg/ml EQ......that shit was like treacle, most oils i use are quality and very light as they should be!...... nicely warmed and patience when pinning is the ticket.
Backload the slins..... never try to pull oil from bottle or amp with them it will take you all day, draw with a 23/21G then load the slin....... brand new clean pin hitting the skin every single shot... Booooooooom.
Definitely gonna give this a try! I always draw with one pin and jab with a new pin so I hear ya there.
Thanks for the gem Vike!
Currently i am running a 5test blend sustanon through 27s with ease bro.
I am taking the plunge and crossing over to slin pins.. just so you all know I m also going to start pinning my forearms to give my delts a much needed break ;-)
Make me proud with the forearm shots...... these guys in here cringe like whipped pups when i mention it lol
Forearms are great targets. Don't even feel it with slin pins. Grrrl's going to show these boys how to "man up".
Forearm shots??? That's makes even me cringe... oh my lanta. I've stuck the chest lats bis tris delt glute legs... never a forearm... I'm almost leaning towards this is a joke but i never can tell lol
It's no joke .. my forearms are bigger than most mens.. who are juicing .. it is a perfect place to stick in the rotation
My forearms have so many water hose veins and all then all the little ones.. just poking my forearm with my finger I laugh just imagining it... I'm a baby I guess lol!
There is a specific technique which i discussed with Grrl in PM........... i am not willing to lay it out in this thread because i dont want every clown and his dog on here trying this protocol and making a total fuck up of it........ i know you understand my reasoning here
You know I tried the forearms, it didn't hurt at all going in but then I had crazy swelling. Now in all fairness that gear made me swell a bit everywhere I pinned it, I'll have to try it with some of this good stuff.
i only use good stuff ;-)
I should clarify it was good but o seem to react to different carrier oils
lol.. you know how I feel about pussy whipped .... ugh I mean whipped puppies ;-)
Ouch,
You know Vike, I've always used 25g pins but my next purchase will definitely be 27g!
In regards to massaging after pinning, this has always been a controversial subject! I've always believed we should refrain from doing so! My belief is if pinning is an incision into the tissue, why aggravate it and open it more by heavily massaging it!
Thanks for clarifying this! Another gemstone of a post! :))
Much appreciated ,
My delts are very well defined as are my quads , seems like any bf I carry is in stomach area , but the other night im pinning (I get my 25s and 20s from my pharma ) but I pin quads , you know I draw up with ,20switch tip ,(im running a tren a/prop cycle so I dont like to let a little oil on pin, )I pull cap , pin I pull out , its a.25g 5/8 ,I figure it got mixed in at my store , but I expected some kind of , sub q , pain etc . Nothing , so I been pinning with the 5/8 , no cough , no pip , sweet , but vik , you saying a 27 g slin will work nice , on delts , lateral and front , and my delts are like my quads , very well defined , little bf. I have used 25g 5/8 ,no problem on front delt , just that burn if I go over a ml. But im going to , get a pack og the 27s -slin next time in , ty goodm post , and left delts out of commision , for 2 months , time to break the pecs , in , shit tho I feel like im going to hit the heart for some reason ., I have 8 sites but all I run is shorts any.more.so. , ty learned alot here p.s.appolagize if I hyjacked a little good topic ed
There is some of that wisdom I missed!
RustyhookerVery nice!
Np for me , but I usually use 1 inch, but think im switching to 11/2. The oil dont want to go in anymore, it goes in but with effort , to much scar tissue I take it .