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4th Cycle

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This will be cycle number 4 for me, going for some lean gains and strength, wouldn't complain about fat loss either.

Few things to mention:
I will be donating blood regularly on this cycle, I normally do anyway so this isn't unusual or anything for me but to help with the EQ RBC sides.

I'll be ingesting around 4000cal a day on this but I'm gonna playbwith that as needed, I work in the military so morning PT, 10-12 hour work day, gym, sleep

Supp List:
TUDCA/NAC: Liver Support
Cardarine, Carditone, Fish Oil, K2: BP and Heart Support
One A Day Multi, D3, Lions Mane, Greens Powder, Magnesium Glyc, Zinc: Everyday wellness
L-Glutamine: Gut Support
L-Arganine, L-Citruline, Beta-Alanine, Creatine, Gorilla Mode Pre: Pre Workout

Will be drawing with a 20g, injecting into Quads/Glutes rotationally with 25g
Never done quads before so any tips would be sick

PCT will be standard Nolva/Clomid combo, 4 weeks and I have it on hand already

Also in previous cycles I've experienced low E2 sides running EQ but I was bioscience only back then so any tips on dealing with that would be great.

I'd like to get bloods done on cycle but I'm not sure how that works and if it gets reported, etc, I'll take any advice there as well.

I'll be posting a source review post cycle, I'm using a new source that I have very high hopes for so, stay tuned.

No before/ after pics due to my job nature and that I'm covered in Tattoos that are very recognizable, sorry on that

If I left anything out please feel free to ask and I'll answer below, happy to be finally posting here and interacting with you beautiful creatures!

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SeeOhShow's picture

www.walkinlab.com for bloods. You can pick quest or labcorp based on whatever is closest to you. They routinely run 15-20% of sales. Just pay out of pocket no need to go through insurance and the labs are sent directly to you. Even easier if you have the quest or labcorp app…we live in a time where there’s an app for everything lol. After you buy on the website you go to whichever lab you picked and set up the appointment and pick the “other” reason for visit and select “I don’t have insurance” for when they ask for insurance info.

I’d personally bump up the needle gauge to 27 at a minimum. I have 30g for injecting in both 1/2” and 1” lengths depending where I’m pinning. Heat the barrel up in a heating pad and the oil flows through 30g no problem for me. Less pain and less tissue damage with the thinner needles.

STRONK's picture

Appreciate it, I'll use that site. So even with insurance just deny having it? I can do that. Labcorps is heavy in my area so I'll go through them.

I'll also pick up some 27-30g needles and see how the treat me, 25g is the smallest I've gone before so I could try some different things. Thanks for the tip on heating it up, never tried it before but now I will

SeeOhShow's picture

Yup even with insurance just deny it. It’s paid for out of pocket and there’s no need to include them. I’m in a sorta similar job type situation as you, not mil just civ fed but hold a TS clearance. I’m not trying lose shit by including any of that stuff and it showing up somehow. Luckily I’m not covered in recognizable tattoos though lol.

Thank you for your service though and good luck with your cycle.

STRONK's picture

Got it, that was exactly my worry. I don't know how it would show up but if it did, it wouldn't be a fun day. I defin8tely don't regret the tattoos but if you saw em you'd know exactly who I am lol.

And absolutely, thanks for what you do too, holding a TS isn't easy either

NWApatches's picture

Id ditch pinning quads and hit delts or somewhere else instead

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STRONK's picture

Just asking but how come? Have you had bad experiences there?

NWApatches's picture

Man it's like you pumped a 80# bag of quikcrete in that quad the next three days - sometimes

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STRONK's picture

Sheesh, thanks for the warning. I have morning group runs several times a week so that's a no go, I'll try out the delts first

NWApatches's picture

Oh yeah. Those morning runs would murder you after running off in that virgin quad

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Chad P's picture

I rotate glutes and delts, using a 5/8” 25g in delts and 1” 25g in glutes with 0 issues. I always keep my oils below 1ml when hitting delts

STRONK's picture

I don't know why delts make me nervous but I'll give that a go, I need to get more comfortable with different pin sites. 25g was small enough for those in your experience?

Chad P's picture

For me personally yes, slides right in pain free. Never any lumps or knots and I feel 5/8 gets deep enough since there isn’t really any fat to breakthrough.

Jockstrap's picture

Just 6 weeks var and eq has 4weeks to half life out and linger. So if you go 16eq and 18 test and week 20 pct then run var 14-20. Youll need stronger pct and would advice hcg wk 18-20.

Quads seated. Midthigh around 1:00 position if that makes sense to you. Theres also a great intermedius quad at 12noon position. That thick upside down V. Long cycle so advise 10 injection points or more. Hot pad if needed for pip. Dont massage.

Blood test around week 7 and if eq pushes estrogen low then bump test up a tiny bit. The ratio you posted should be a simple fun cycle. Donate blood week 9 imo. Hydrate, eat, lift. Enjoy!

STRONK's picture

So you'd recommend knocking the Var down to 6 then? I ran it for 6 last time for at 50mg and handled it well, after reading up it seemed some people extended it out but I'm fine with limiting it down too. I'll definitely pick up some HcG, I was debating it anyway and you convinced me. Been wanting to try out reconstituting something anyway since I want to try out some peptides so practice will be a good thing.

I'll try those quad positions out, I definitely get what you were saying there and I appreciate it, the glutes every time left me a little sore to be honest so I want to rotate.

I'll wait for week 7 for bloods too and if I can figure out how to post those in this thread I'll do that to update. Would donating before week 9 reduce blood saturation? I regularly donate for some extra cash and for morality points already but I can pause it.

Thanks for the comments on the ratio too, been nervous about that but I'll have extra test ready if needed to boost it if I feel sides.
Appreciate the advice and thank you!

Jockstrap's picture

Var really rips into the cholesterol ratios and dont need more issues if it can be avoided. After cycle care to get good cholesterol back up is a key. Hcg simply because its a very long cycle. I like eq a lot as its solid and well kept.

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