posted Sat, 04/28/2018 - 04:03
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Tilapia vs polock. GO!!!
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Ok so i know tilapia is a staple. My coach usually always suggest cod but told him polock is cheap where I’m st and since it’s 0fat, and 19pro ever 4oz. That’s what I’m using. Taste ok like any fish “rather have chicken” but what’s your guys take.
Rather have real educated answers or opinions by whatever goes. I’m prepping for my 2nd national show and never really did a lot of fish but for 2 days we do 3 fish meals and I’m going with polock.
Reason i made the post is cause even though I’ve googled i never really hear too much for polock. Which is nuts imo cause it’s very low on the mercury side and a leaner fish then tilapia.
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Pollack! The mackerel are in, here in Dublin, caught me some nice pollack too last night. Caught 1 pollack and 2 mackerel with feathers on my first cast last night. Switched to single lure after that, for sport.
Lovely fillets harvested, feed the entire family.
WetNoodle9099Talapia isn’t even an ocean fish. It’s a fresh water fish from Africa. The Chinese farm the shit out of them then use them to eat the solids out of raw sewage. I can only assum some of them end up frozen in our markets. STAY AWAY FROM TALAPIA!
Ive been fishing for 23 years and let me tell you......STAY AWAY FROM DIRTY AZZ TILAPIA! Yes its cheap, but they are fed the shit of higher end farmed fish. Your best bet would be to learn how to fish and hit your local body of water. It does't get better than FREE, local, wild caught, organic fish!
There are lots of good fish options out there, especially frozen (Costco and the like). Obviously fresh is best, but there are some great frozen options around.
I saw a show where they were farm raising bass and other fish and they used talapia to eat all the other fish’s crap in their pens. Then sold the talapia. Yum!
WetNoodle9099That is 100% correct plus eat the solids out of raw sewage than possibly frozen in our markets
Tilapia is a farmed raised fish bred and raised in pens usually coming from China or Southeast Asia.
Pollock is a WILD caught salt water fish usually coming from the Pacific Northwest.
Fresh Wild Fish over farmed raised in China , all day.
That’s what I’ve been going with and found out it taste really good if i bake it with no foil. If i ever use foil it just soaks in it own jelly like juice and is nasty AF.
I’ll be back in the fish game probably 4 weeks out agai.
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Ya thanks guys. I’ve been going with pollock. It’s the cheapest, leanest and finally found a way to cook with without have a shit load of that jello gew when cooking in foil. The pollock inget is 0fat, 19protien per 4oz.
GlycogenGuyBeans try Cod. It’s also cheap and tasty.
Cod and flounder is what my coach says, told him about pollock and he said that’s fine as well. I’m sure cod is probably better, but from what i can choose form at my local store, cod for some reason not only has 2-3 fat per 4oz “which coach says must be the brand cause it should be 0-1” but it’s also about 5-6$ per pound vs pollock 2-3$ per pound.
Cheaper and leaner i gotta go eth pollock for now until price and more variety of cod comes.
GlycogenGuyBuy it fresh not frozen. Food is more important than gear but most of us spend a ton on gear but not on food. Not saying this pertains to you but I’m speaking of myself and many others. Cod in NJ is about 4 or 5 a pound. Do what I do. Go catch it yourself if you are near the ocean. I’m on the east coast so it’s easy to get many good cold water fish. Your on the right track though. Remember fresh wild is always a better option. Also don’t forget about sardines. Excellent fats and proteins and very cheap. I like King Oscar they are a little pricey but bumblebee in olive oil is 1$ a can.
GlycogenGuyThe only bad thing about talapia is that it has bad fats (Omega 6) which causes inflammation. It’s also the most farmed fish in the world China is number one and some of the farming practices are disgusting. In China they use Talapia the eat stuff out of raw sewage. I would stay away. Pollock or Cod or Ling. You want wild cold water fish.
GlycogenGuyTilapia is the common name for nearly a hundred species of cichlid fish from the tilapiine cichlid tribe. Tilapia are mainly freshwater fish inhabiting shallow streams, ponds, rivers and lakes and less commonly found living in brackish water. For those who don’t know brackish is that dark brown water. It’s fresh and salt water mixed.
basskiller89From a fat loss standpoint whichever fish takes longer to break down is going to have a higher thermogenic effect. At most roughly 25% give or take a few %. So if you eat 200 calories of either fish the difference is most likely not going to be any greater than 10-20 calories at most. Doesn't seem like it would make a difference if you're on point with the rest of your prep. Not really sure the effects of either on body composition which is probably more important at your level of competition. Best of luck brother, keep us updated
Wow no wonder my coach said no tilapia last prep but never thought much of it.
But ya i buy wild caught polock, it’s $14 for 4lbs where I’m at “frozen” and it’s not too bad with some sugar free ketchup.
Love the feedback and thoughts guys
Just avoid any farmed fish. I try and buy whatever is there that’s wild caught. We have lots of wild stream trout up this way that I’ve been grubbing on. Best of both worlds. Get some fishing/camping in and stock up on meals at the same time. Win win.
GlycogenGuyI’m in NJ and have caught about 50lbs of Striped Bass. Delicious and healthy. Carlos is 100% dead on. Farmed fish carry lots of parasites. Wild anything is better than farmed. Don’t forget many shell fish are also farmed. I would go with Pollock
Open water farmed shellfish is completely different from farm raised fish.
I eat Pollock all the time , I live beside the sea so I catch it myself and mackerel too . I really like the taste , . As for tilapia I don't know what that is lol
Check out Jerry Branum’s video about tilapia. He goes into the types of acids that are in the meat that actually increase inflammation. Which is the opposite of what we’re trying to do when we eat fish. He goes much more in-depth on the subject, basically a 30 min video about why tilapia is a bad choice, it’s on YouTube.
I gotta agree with Rusty. Where I'm from we literally have a name for tilapia. Rubbish Fish
RustyhookerTilapia tastes like dirt. Fish feeds on crap. 6months of that taste and i was lean. But can write large dirty words about tilapia. Lol.