Contest prep / cycle and log
Updated as of 1/4/2017
So Its super early I know, Im still running my bulk cycle but I like to know things in advance and have a plan. In my other thread I wrote what I ran for my last show, DIDNT RUN ANY SHORT ESTER! But now I feel like Im at the level where not wanting to pin alot goes out the window. I will have a coach that will help me with this but wont be hiring him for another few months and by then I dont want to be in a crunch for time ordering what i need. So I figured Id keep it as simple as possible and similar to what Ive ran last go around but maybe adjust dose a bit and would like some advise and input with that info I told everyone.
This is what I ran last time. LAST PREP
Test eth at 700mg wk 1- 14wks
Dbol 30mg ed 1-4wk
Eq at 500mgwk 1-8wks
Tren eth at 600mg wk 3-14wks
Mast eth at 600mg wk 4-14wks
Winny 50mg ed for 3 wks and 100mg for 10days
T3 and clen was in the mix along side letro and other antis on hand, also ran ghrp 6 and frag but I`d rather not get into that as much but mainly just GEAR.
I would like to run Tren ace and test pro and mast pro this time or at least the last 6 weeks or so. But also wouldn't that be a good way to start the cycle off so it kicks in faster? Is there a way to set it up that way? Thought Ive read somewhere in a few forums that they'll use the short ester for a few weeks, switch to longer ester then back to short.... I feel that may complicate things a little. I will definitely run a 16 week cycle.
Just a rough thought of what id like to run,
updated 2/28/17
ok finally after getting a dam calender and converting 3x pins and 4x pins a week to eod, the MG per week is different and wanted to update.
test eth 750mg 16-5 1cc 3x wk or 1.25cc totaling 937.5mg week....(most ive ran was 750mg, lil more may be good?)
tren eth 450mg 14-7 .75cc 3x wk
tren mix 150mg 14-7 .25cc 3x wk
mast eth 495mg 13-7 .66cc 3x wk
(maybe avavar low dose 50mg ed for first few weeks)???? POINTLES???
test pro 350mg 4-1 1cc eod ------ .5cc ed
tren ace 700mg 6-0 2cc eod ----- 1cc ed
mast eth 700mg 6-0 75cc eod ----.4cc ed
winny 50mg 6-3 last 20 days 100mg ed
halo 25mg last 20 days
what a pain in the ass. lol
of course letro at the end to crash estro etc,
Again this is for a national level contest.
One thing i find myself thinking is thats a shit load to pin everyday. Even if you pinned ed instead of EOD your pinning 1cc test, 1cc tren, 1cc mast and whatever else your planning on pinning. EOD would be 6cc at least. I find that crazy. (short easters) longer ester usually has higher dose i know.
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Final update I posted my stage shots. Weighed 237.2 Wednesday at 7pm after final meal and 1.5 gal of water. By Thursday at 4pm was weigh ins which unneeded to be 225.25 or under...... woke up Thursday at 4am to start the drive to Vegas, was 232.2.... by 7am I was 231.0 by 11am I was 230.0.... I got to the hotel at 130pm and was 229.2. I have to loose 4 more pounds in a few hours so I walked around with a garbage bag on. Went to weigh in at 415pm and was 224.8.... just made weigh and coach said to down a 32oz water and a meal. Was a great experience. There was 39 guys in heavyweights this year and although I didn't get my pro card. Next time I know what I need to bring. And probably won't post that journey cause we'll, I'll definitely be going in as I plan on going pro next time. Now I'll be starting my bulk. Stay lean as usually 10% ish , no higher. But I will not step on stage without another 10lbs of solid muscle.
Looking phenomenal
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Ok guys peak week. I've been posting pics in the picture thread. Weight it 234.5 today so 10lbs to loose by Thursday evening at weigh ins.
Updated pics in selfies section. 12 days it. Last pin of masteron eth and test prop was Saturday. Decided to through in proviron oral since I ran out of masteron. Running tren halo winny and proviron up until show. Tren ace probably will run out a day or so before show time
So just a quick update, looks like tren e at 600 a week is great for me but tren a at 1cc day or 700 week is a little too much for me. For about 5 days now my left nip is gotten slightly sensitive and slightly puffy. So the last few days I've upped my arimidex and caber,threw in some Nolva ( I know I need pharmacy grade, flame away). But it hasn't gotten any better, not really any worse either, so I'm gonna have to lower my tren I feel the next week to .75 ed and see if it goes down.
I'd lower the tren down more if you're having those issues instead of having to throw all those other drugs at it and feeling like shit that it ruins your prep AND you may be chasing that issue all the way through. There is no guarantee that it will work.
Ya I'm gonna lower it to .75cc ed instead of 1cc. Although I think it may be like a pimple though cause it's like my actual nopple that's kind swollen not behind it like I've had before. And it's only my left. I'm gonna just try not to stress about it cause I really need to shredz down, there's been more and more people popping up doing nationals and they have all either done nationals before and or have people and companies backing them up. So they look stage ready right now. Trying to not let that get to me.
Thanks bro
Another update. As of today I weighed in at a low 234.0. Haven't been losing too much so my coach told me to switch it up and I was shocked. We cut back cardio to just fasted in the morning again. Also upped my carbs a bit to roughly 150ish and lowered protein just a hair..... and I went from floating around 237-238 to 2 days later 234-235. Going to stick with this for another day to two and he said "were gonna switch shit up soon" lol
I'll post a few pics in the picture section thread.
Update, just over 6 weeks out. Going to be starting my short esters soon, within the week. Adding winny very soon, and still plan on running halo last 2-3 weeks.
Will post up some pics again probably tomorrow.
Last night was the last night I ran stuff that hold excess water so hopefully tomorrow I'll wake up tight for some progress pics for the coach.
Well it's only been a week or so since my last update. But on Monday I'm dying cause I'm still roughly the same weight I've been since the last 3-4 weeks. It goes down to a new low then up, back down and up. Noticed this wth previous preps also. Mainly cause of high carb weekends and low car weeks in previous preps. But now sure i think I've been getting leaner the last few weeks but the scale isn't moving much. Hell its going up, this morning was 243.2. Sure it could be from water weight due to a low dose of something I'm trying (no need to discuss) suppobable I'll flush everything out after a few days once I'm done taking it. But we switched my diet to dam near no carbs for my low training days.
2 cups of whites, 1tbs of pb
Meal 2,3,4. - 7.25oz chicken and veggies
Meal 5 8.25oz beef and veggies
Training days are the same besides pre workout meal has about 20g or carbs and I get 20 more right before the workout and 50 post workout.
High days are roughly 25g with each meal.
Idk I know the process of this, it's my 4 show.... but I just feel like for me, I have to eat almost nothing to get really lean. Whateve name of the game I guess
Just need to find tricks to help with the crazy cravings lately
Been a few weeks, only lost a few pounds, floating 238-240. Here's the link to my progress pic in our picture section in the thread
https://www.eroids.com/pics/8.5-weeks-out.-update
thanks for your sharing, it helps me
Quick update since the other private thread doesn't seem to get much traffic, Saturday was 12 weeks and my weight is 241-242. Everything is coming along great. Started tren couple weeks ago from get pumped so hopefully that started rounding me out a little more along with kissing 20lbs since I started at 20weeks out. Not sure how to do pics but I'll try
Here is a link to the pics section. I don't know how to put pics in this sections sorry.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/12-weeks-out
You will come in looking awesome bro! Especially those last 4 weeks up till the show when you switch to short esters!
Thanks for the kind words. I'm not gonna lie I'm getting to the point of when you start doubting etc, but I always find myself staying positive and staying on track reminding myself don't trip. Trust the process.
I'll keep posting here and there to give updates. I am running get pumped for everything so hopefully everything is strong and it'll show some of his quality in his product.
Never doubt. If you weren't on the right track I would be blunt about it. You are going to do good... when we get smaller and weaker but more reps we always doubt ourselves when we can't do large compound movements. Trust the process bro! You will be more satisfied as you get closer.
prep is starting to get close. March 11th is 20 weeks out (16wks out prep starts) and ive got everything i need to start. Im not going to come all the way off cycle, although i usually do a hcg/nlova and clomid pct, Im just going to drop to test 250mg a week for the next 5-6 weeks (i just rand hcg last month to get my balls a boost). Only reason Im not coming all the way off and for the first time i might add is cause its for a short time and then prep starts, also the coach said this would be a better option.
Anyways I already picked up an additional few extra test e and tren mix of 50 ace 150 ena , so Im probably going to start that tren mix when I do the tren at 14wks out so I can get it in my system quicker since it have ace. Other besides that I have some anavar now also which is what i think gave me acid reflux but not 100% sure it was that. I was thinking on hitting anavar at a low dose 50mg a day for a few weeks when i start my prep cycle at 16 weeks out.
Cheers
UPDATED WITH PINNING ROUTINE. !!!!!
tell me what you think!
test eth 750mg 16-5 ------1cc 3x wk ------ or 1.5cc 2x wk
tren eth 450mg 14-7 -----.75cc 3x wk ------or 1.125cc 2x wk
mast eth 400mg 13-7 -----.66cc 3x wk -----or 1cc 2x wk
test pro 350mg 4-1 ------1cc eod
tren ace 700mg 6-0 ------2cc eod
mast eth 525mg 6-0 -----.75cc eod
winny 50mg 6-3 100mg 2-0
halo 20mg last 25 days
Pinning 3x a week over 2x a week so i can pin less oil, but then im only shooting like 1cc less so maybe Ill do 2x.
2.41cc each pin 3x a week, or 3.6cc each pin 2x a week.
Best to go ED those final weeks, especially with tren a. Maybe a typo but you have mast e for those final wks. Make sure to switch over to mast p instead. Personally I would dump the tren a and switch it out with injectable mtren, I would also dump the winni and switch it out with var. But that is me, run what you are comfortable with.
dont ask me, coach said just keep mast e..... i thought the same thing myself about mast prop.
Maybe cause it doesn't convert to estro? so it wont hold water??? Not sure, he`s the pro and been coached by chris aceto himself for when he turned pro, so im just like whatever you say boss.
Don't deviate from your coach then.
ok so i think i nailed down how to do everyday injections. I was going to start mast at 525mg wk at week 6 at .75cc eod....tren at 2cc eod, test prop 1cc eod.... so now if i do ed i think if i did the math right, its .4cc ed mast, .5cc ed test, 1cc ed tren. Thats no too bad. Looks like ed is what ill do.
no long esters for comp prep unless you cut them out about 6 weeks before and switch to short esters depending what you look like maybe 8 or more.. I would look up comp prep cycles and go from there.
I know, Ive been hammered even with gym buddys that I need to do short esters. And i always told them, No, if my genetics are good enough I`ll do well or win the npc shows and i told them if i made it to nationals or was able to do well genetically and with hard work, I will do short ester and poke myself everyday. Well that time has come.
So basically something along these lines.
(first half)
test eth- 750mg 18-9
tren eth- 600mg 14-9
mast eth- 600mg 12-9
superdrol 10,20,20, 18-15
(second half)
test prop -700mg or 350mg 8-2 - drop test 2 weeks out
tren ace - 700mg 8-1
mast prop -700mg 8-1
winny 50mg ed for 50 days or 50mg ed and 100mg last week
halo 20-30mg ed last 2 to 3 weeks
clen and t3 will be incorporated.
might through in a little igf lr3 and frag along with grph 6 towards the half way mark.
I have all letro, prami on hand. arimidex etc. Also gonna have 5000 of hcg to recover from this one.
Never used superdrol or halo before so Im excited to try those. (yes, NAC and a combo of other liver and body vitamins Ill run throughout cycle too)
If i missed anything Ill edit this post
So i ordered some stuff to get my stack ready ahead of time. I ordered 2500mg winny, 1000mg superdrol, 500mg halo, and 5000ui hcg. Just figured Id post, Ill post a pic in the gear pics section when landed.
Request membership here and have a look around so we can get this cycle dialed in.
https://www.eroids.com/og/competition-prep
Wow, how come i just now noticed you wrote this. I will check it out thanks
Not a fan for your proposed cycle. I would look into a more traditional prep cycle and tweak from there.
I will search (traditional prep cycle ) to see what you mean. I seemed to have great success with the last one although I didnt see crazy progress (as far a looking lean/shredded) until last 8 weeks.
Thanks
You ran that much test right up until showtime?
yes, I used all ethanate esters as well. If i remember correctly I stopped test monday and last pin of tren and mast was on Thursday, winny i ran to day of show. (i know I shouldve stopped sooner or used prop)
I think I will pull back the test 4 weeks out and completely 2 weeks out this go around. Could you elaberate what the ( standard contest cycle is?) I searched a little and dont think I found what you meant.,...
A pretty typical cycle would be prop/mast/tren (not my typical cycle but for most it is). Nothing wrong with starting out with long esters if you are going to run a 16+ wk prep but by 8wks out I would be changing out to all shorts and dropping all test 2 wks out and plan on crashing estro. Now you have to decide if you want to introduce orals also. I would also strongly consider inj. mtren that final month out (its a game changer for me anyway). That coupled with some specific orals to get the look you want should put you in winning condition if you nail your drying out and carb load phase right.
I hate to sound this way makwa, but thats basically what i put lol test?mast/tren..... with winny an oral last month....I may be a little confused, you said you didnt like my proposed cycle...test.tren.mast,winny.....along with maybe a new oral....And you say a traditional cycle would be better, prop/mast/tren with an oral.... Thats exactly what i put lmao....
Again I want to note I`m not trying to come off as a dick. I think we are mis-communicating or something.
And reason I was saying and asking about a way to to use short esters, then long and back to short was because it takes so long for the long esters to become useful.
But i have noticed in alot of -so called pro cycles- they start with long esters 16-20 weeks out then switch to short about 8-10 weeks out so that makes sence instead or tryng to blast short esters first few weeks then long esters then back to short the last 8 weeks.
well you have all long esters and test right up to show. No specifics on how you plan on manipulating test as the cycle progresses and I think you are really missing out on what some other orals could do to polish you up and finish you off. Winny I would trash. What you have laid out there I think would be a big dissapointment especially for a national show. You are going to have to get a lot more detailed on the specifics of the cycle for any one to be able to offer some constructed advice. You are just plain jane with that cycle which isn't really helpful when trying to dial it in for a show.
OK perfect now i think i understand now. Yes my last show was all long esters and thats why I came here, cause i know I need to run short esters this time but also dont wanna pin ed for 16 weeks lol . Also why I came here is cause I wasnt sure what other orals i should possible try out to finalize that polished look since ive only ran winny for a (cutting steriod). Also thats why i came here is to ask how since this would be my first time using short ester etc how someone might want to manipulating their gear.
thanks
National level comp? Need your body weight,stats goal etc etc.
last show, BW was 218 day of show after water drop. Weight right now is 260lbs/ Probably 265-270 by the time i start prep for show.
goals? This is for a national level show.....so the goals are to get as shredded as possible.....