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!This is amazing shit i just discovered it today i need to share this wit ya
Ok so what this basically is Fasting for a certain amount of hours there are different levels im gona use the best example for us which is the Lean mass gain level here you eat for 8 hours and fast for 16hours, you gota eat mad healthy like most of us do here. Like you need your healthy fats, omegas 3-6-9, medium chanin fatty acids, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, High protien and of course a sensible amount of carbs like Yams, bananas, tomatoes, wheat bread,pumpernickel bread.berries etc..
This method will reduce BP, lipids& inflaMmation
Increase lipolysis, growth hormone & IGF-1 and BMR and it can improve your appetite blood glucose and nueogensis

Very important need to weight train after fasting hours are done like 30min left of fastin go to gym becuase youll take advantage of the increased amount of HGH & IGF-1, the. Eat postworkout

The links below will have amazing short timed transformation and informative is the last link its an hour long explain everything by Micheal Lara MD
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzfsaXsV-T4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jLraP0o6TqY
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gg79AZoevls&feature=related
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZWOXhoFpo

TheSlapYouNeed's picture

16/8 IF with macro cycling (Training days: High protein / high carb / low fat - Rest Days: High protein / high fat / low carb) has served me very very well over the past few months.

That includes 2 training sessions on 'training' days (fasted weight training in the morning and athletics at night).

MuayThaiGuasian's picture

I've tried IF and did not like it. I did pick up some principles from it but do not follow it directly.

I like VIKING's no carbs after 2pm the best. Check his thread for real world fat loss results

Itry's picture

To each their own on this intermittent fasting subject,
I guess like any thing else fasting effects individuals in different ways.
For me the outcome was not that great, I've read up on I.F. with all the do's and don'ts, got excited with the thought that this could really work.
The problem was that it did work, it worked a little to well!
In the first week I lost close to 10lbs which is what I had expected, you know the usual with any diet ie; water weight exc. by the second week on I.F. I had lost just shy of 20lbs. As great as this sounded to my friends at work, I felt that I had to advise them not to do it due to the my personal experience.
During the time frame I was eating, I ate foods high in protein / low carb, supplemented with vitamins, and drank plenty of water.
As time passed I've gotten to where I could not eat as much as I was in the beginning.
The result: I lost weight "the only good part of this"
But I also lost strength, muscle , and believe it or not my hair started falling out.
I did not mention this at the beginning of this, but my wife was on this diet with me and the same thing was happening to her.
As for the hair loss, it wasn't as dramatic as it sounds. We weren't losing it by the handfuls or any thing like that but the shedding was noticeable.
A doctor told my wife and I that it was from a lack of protein, and a scenario of people that went through gastric bypass/lapband loosing their hair from lack of protein.
Basically the Doc let me know in his own special way that I was being a bumass, ad told me to start eating more food.
As I mentioned earlier this diet will probably effect individuals in different ways, but I would advise agents it. SCELETOR is not a great look.

Itry's picture

16 hours fasting, but the 8 hours I had depended on my schedule at work.
Not permitted to have food at the work area, and really no break times to eat during work hours witch could be any where from 10 to 16 hours a day, and a lot of my weekends are spent working.

XvBeast's picture

this is just a new way of starving ur self. if u wana lose ur muscles and get a weaker body more prone to injury then do it. its honestly fucking retarted . im sorry ..but it is..

i can have a balanced 8 meals a day and still lose weight. why because my metabolism is always working, and i burning calories during cardio. and bam calorie deficit, my body is not in survival mode, im losing weight and im not miserable. i never feel like shit but with ur new method u will and u wont burn that much weight.

also another thing, if ur gunna post this and hype it up. why dont u try it first. dont go telling ppl to do it, if u havent tried it ur self. kinda of against that.

i can go tell ppl to that syntholing the cock will actually make ur dick bigger too, but since i have not done it myself i dont. so there u go

silverback66's picture

Just my 2 cents.. I'm no expert and I can't speak for the science but I have tried intermittent fasting and I had poor results. My effort at the gym was most effected. I wouldn't say I had 0 energy but my workouts definitely suffered. I didn't lose much if any body fat and I feel that because I couldn't work as hard in the gym my muscle mass suffered.

Edit: also worth mentioning, I wasnt using any aas during this time.

Doss's picture

tighten up, playa. come with some real shit, not some youtube links.. take some time to read some case studies, jot down notes from them, throw them together in an article of your own with your own interpretation and in your own words. just like when you write a research paper..

and, i'm sorry, but i completely disagree with these statements. knowing how the human body works in regards to fasting, the catabolic reactions taking place during this time completely oppose and inhibit anything anabolic related. at least naturally speaking.

Doss's picture

I did elaborate. And it wasn't in reference to the gh. It was in reference to the idea of fasting and weight training for increased lean tissues.

As for gh... It is not only produced while you sleep or in the absence of carbs. Insulin shows an inhibitory effect on gh secretion, yes. Carbs do stimulate insulin secretion but insulin is an anabolic hormone in that it promotes the uptake of glucose for glycogen synthesis. Some may misinterpret what I'm saying here but moving past this point, insulin generally runs it's course and clears in less than an hour.

Post workout: glucose is needed to meet the bodies first priority of energy replenishment. Without insulin, glucose is not readily made available to the cells with the demand. Once replenishment has taken place to an extent, the process lf protein synthesis is able to begin. This is where mRNA begin the transcription process of delivering the genetic code for the proteins actin and myosin (which make up muscle tissue) and amino acids are assembled in the sequence dictated by that genetic code - anabolism at its finest.

How gh is produced post workout is actually a homeostatic response for suppressing/offseting the stress hormones produced during the workout. Cortisol is a catabolic stress hormone. Cortisol drives gh production. Studies have shown that moderate levels of cortisol stimulate the release of gh. These studies also show that if levels of cortisol exceed moderate ranges, the will exhibit inhibitory effects on gh. This happens in clinically depressed ppl. So, levels produced during workouts stimulate a rise in gh levels post workout. Gh has a direct relationship with the neurotransmitter serotonin. As gh rises, serotonin begins to rise proportionately. Serotonin is the antagonist to cortisol. Hence the suppression post workout.

Fasting and anabolism do not go hand in hand brother. You can't stimulate two antagonistic processes simultaneously.

crayon's picture

Try it yourself and then comment back saying what you think. Its hard as fuck! I hated it, it made my workouts feel so fucking weak because i hadn't eaten for 15damn hours, i lost alot of strength doing it too

crayon's picture

Sure you lose weight but what type of weight are you actually losing? Doing this i lost alot more muscle than if i just dieted normally

Doss's picture

You're on point crayon. This kid here is one of the ones that is gonna have to learn on his own. You can't tell him anything cuz he likes to argue and thinks he knows it all.

My experiences with fasting came out the same as yours. Decrease in muscle tissue and fat. Verified thru body composition testing.

crayon's picture

Thanks man, with fads like these which have so much hype, people build it up to be amazing! Its only when you've tried it that you know what its like :/ and more often than not the results are disappointing. Especially with this fad, its highly catabolic.

rsp2000's picture

IF is, to me, an amazing way to eat, lose weight AND put on muscle [there are different protocols depending on goals that I have adopted to my needs] But suffice to say i have NEVER eaten more than 3 times per day in the past 3 years and have made the best gains in my life.

I have been doing this for 3 years now and have made some of my best gains using this method

The way in which this works [with science backed] makes so much sense but what it also does is challenges the the current way of how people general diet for BB and Size.

Leangains.net and rippedbody.jp are also a good place to read up if you are interested.

It is a big area to talk about - but since I took the plunge three years ago - my entire diet approach has changed. It has been the SINGLE most evoluntionary change in how it train to gain.

rsp2000's picture

I fast for 16 hours and get my total calories over 2-3 meals in 8 hours.

3rd year doing it but you need to educate yourself and read through a number of informed and subject matter experts for IF and Fasting. It challenges all the decades of "bro science" whilst I also adhered and followed.......so it really does challenge the way you think nutrition worked.

I shared the opinion above of a few posters - till I deep dived numerous books and studies and tried variations of it - and to me its worked amazingly. I get to put on lean mass with minimal fat and no longer need to "bulk or cut" but equally am I far more agile, can lead a life where you dont need to look to eat every 2.5 hours as you "think" you will lose muscle, nor do you "think" youll be weak or lose mass if you dont eat for even 20 hours.

Its a huge step change but it is one worth doing if you can spend the time in understanding the human body and how it copes and reacts to stimulus.