posted Wed, 10/12/2011 - 06:56
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Uh Oh...Itchy Nipples!
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Just approaching week 3 of my first steroid cycle and today my nipples feel itchy, could just be a simple coincedence but as I am on 600mg test e and approaching week 3, my brain is ringing alarm bells!
I have been taking arimidex at .5mg every other day, it looks bunk though, made by British Dragon EU.
I have lixus labs nolva do you think I should start popping some of this now? or wait a couple of days? or up the Arimdex to .5mg every day? or start clomid? etc etc...
Any thoughts appreciated????
Also if your suggestion is to start Nolva now then what should I do for PCT, just carry on?
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tread-mStick has the best post in here so far...gyno is a newb scare thing and I dont mean that negative , we all had to be newbs and we all remember the panic of sore nipples etc. The thing is I have not used anything for gyno in years and years and while on occasion I have had sore nipples no gyno...stick bhit the nail here as gyno is sometbhing that occurs first in puberty as estrgen will store in fat around the nipples and later bind giving you early onset gyno...so here it is, you already had gyno most likely if gear gives you that issue....look around especially these days with all the video game and lazyness of kids. Half the kids now have gyno that will even increase as they get older without serious lifestyle change. "Bitch tits" is to be expected for these same people witout correction and if you fall into this category, had flab around the chest or "poofy" nipples then you shoukd take serious precaution with a blocker. If you have never had those issues then keep the blockers on hand and dont panic...it takes a lot of time for a person thats not predisposed to create gyno...good example is my brother who is a virtual twin to me, he can get up to dime size lumps under his nipple in a mega stack and post cycle it just goes away. He or I cannot get gyno, we had zero predisposition both being active and in sports etc during and after puberty so its just not going to happen. Blockers or not you can get sore and especially as newer users (first 5 years ish) you will...had to ring in just because you see the panic in people and remember it in yourself but look around you, nobody has gyno that you know in the gym as a rule and if they do they likely already had it before ever using gear and the drop in test and influx of gyno simply added to it...be safe but dont panic, not mearly as common as one would think given all the fright and chatter on the subject....
AnonWell it is like me trying to give a lecture on MPB which i am immune to it. Does it mean that MPB is a newb scare thing? Anyway that advice you posted here is what i followed and flared up. Like you say some people will get it. Thing is that ammount of people is much greater than people like you which are immune to gyno, something like 75% of all males that do roids will get it. I dont really think its a newb think like you say or that it last 5 years. You can get gyno at any point in time just cause you didnt get it on this cycle doesnt mean you will never get it. I bet if people follow yours or sticks advice we are going to have 100gyno threads in a months time with people wondering why taking nothing didn't work for them.
tread-mNo rods, have to read a little closer bud, you always have it on hand. I am the first to say that for newer users and the first to say we are all different....I'm making the point that in 25 years of doing this I have never had a single friend in the gym with gyno that didn't already have it. One should not over look the fact that gyno was present for them before ever running a cycle..the slightest "poofy" nipple is slight gyno...many people have those and especially today. The point is again I have had itchy nipples, sore nipples, very painful rub bing of the shirt ...all of that but I never had the poofy nipples. So if someo ne has that extreme caution should be taken. If you look around the gym though the percentage of people with gyno is hard to measure its so low, look at guys all over anywhere else, walmart or wherever and the percentage of non-gear users for gyno is waaaay higher. Your advise is well taken thugh and as I said , dont down play it, but also dont feel like you have to panic with a little sore niipple but I'm talking to people as m.etioned who have never had predisposition gyno....actual gy no does not go away with a pill so 99 percent of the people who say they had it on gear didn't because it went away....my brother as mentioned will get actual lumps up to dime size and his first scare he ran to his sports doc setting up the appoinment for gyno...doc told him, this will go away you dont have gyno at all, there is no shape change or downward change in the nipple, you'll be fine...and it went away. So I guess my biggest problem is that we have changed the definition of gyno over the years to include , "my nipples got sore" and "my nipples itch"....it is like saying I have a hernia because I strained an ab. Youor point is good in moderation and safe over sorry is a good policy but people running around scared to death is what I feel for because I was one of those people and it was a bit miserable! Lol. Vey right of you though, not everyone is me and we are all very different . What you mentioned may be my exact point though, you say you had a "flare up" and that 75% of users will get it. Thats my point I think, I have had flare ups and probably 99% of users will have flare ups but flare ups are not gyno they are flare ups. Flare ups go away, gyno does not. Its the definition of gyno that is turning into something it is not. If 75% of users got gyno then 75% of users would need surgery or have to live with gyno. You see what I'm saying. You make a good point and a little scare is good so I give you a point for the discussion because this where we all learn. Trust me, when I quit learning I'm done....nice points
AnonMate i totally respect what you say if anything you bring a side to the story that everyone should see. Also i agree that the whole gyno definition is not what actual gyno is. Flare ups are part of what we do i agree but they can be avoided. The whole scare of gyno alone can destroy a cycle but also it should not be taken lightly. I am sure the scare of someone lactating the first time would be much worse that a tiny flare up hence why i suggest to people to take caution. Funny thing is i was reading at Anabolics yesterday that 96%+ of steroid users will get sides so what you say isnt too far away from the truth 99% will indeed get some form of nipple discomfort\flare up. To the sensitive ones though discomfort can lead to lumps and gyno and that can happen overnight, surgery to fix it takes a while and a lot of $, an AI doesnt and also takes care of the scare part. Only wish to knew what histroy everyone had before i suggested an AI but is too hard to do in a forum, no way to just gauge who are the seinsitive ones.
tread-mGood points rod for sure....
Well ik gyno isnt a desise u dont just catch it, it has to develop like any tissue in the body, I also know that caffien promotes aroma of test, fiber helps rid the body of estrogen and if u were "fat" during purburty ur extra pron to gyno, I dont think an itchy nipple is a extream reason to add another cemical, considering nolva lowers igf1. The itchy nip could be from laundry detergent or soap not saying it is but r the even swollon a lil bit? Gyno is a lump a hard lump ive run threw a whole cycle with sore nips an been fine after pct but ive been pretty lean scince before puberty an was weight lifting for football idk man just dont freak yet
thanks man, I did not go for nolva today wanted to wait and see like you suggest. Today it seems alright, they are not swollen, will keep an eye on it, but have nolva on hand just in case
I think you are right I think it could have been just a new top causing the friction or something....easy to panic when on first cycle though lol
AnonThing is if you have to take Nolva on cycle it wont be as effective during your PCT or so thats what I've heard.
As someone suggested before, Try extreme peptide and get an AI. They're super cheap, only problem is they are oral administered and that shit is Nasssssty
AnonGet on the nolva i would say 40mg ed till sides subside and keep taking 20mg till the end of your cycle. I wouldnt trust BD arimidex. Why not get some from extremepeptides it is cheap as chips. If you know your adex is working then you could bump it up to 0.5ed or 1mg ed or 2md ed and skip the nolva. Till then stick to the nolva
Do you think I should wait 1 more day, just in case? or not worth the risk?
Where can I get extremepeptides from any recommendations?
You can find them in the source reviews. Great source for peptides cheap and ship fast as hell.
AnonWaiting and gyno signs dont go to well together bro trust me on this. If you are in the us you can get legit cheap adex from extremepeptides within 1 day, search on the source reviews. If you are in the rest of the world try alldaychemist it takes a while though. Try bumb up your BD adex dose before getting on the nolva that way you will know for sure if it works or not. Take 1mg for the next 3 days and see if it helps. Personally i would up the adex and hit the nolva too but not many suggest that route.
extreme peptides ships world wide
AnonI know bro but if he was in the us he could get it overnight almost. I have ordered from that source and i am not in the us
I'm with Rods, even a speculation that ur adex is bunk is enough for me. "I" would bump up the adex AND hit the nolva while waiting on some legit AI
my .02
Thanks Rods...I will up the adex dosage to 1mg for the next 3 days, if the feeling gets worse or does not go away I will start nolva in 3 days time.
If I order from someone else and it arrives next week, should I come off the nolva and go back on the Adex?
AnonYou could come off it yes but for the first week at least i would say use them alongside so you can build yout levels from the adex. Also if you are at 40mg nolva it is wise to tapper it down and not come off it abruptly. Up the adex from today if you can you dont want estrogen to be dominant for any length of time