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-1 Test E 600mg Cycle Outline

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Hey guys, decided to go for it. Here's what I'm planning. Any feedback is welcome.

Stats:
5'6 3/4"
175lbs 12-14% body fat
3 prior cycles:
500mg test e
600mg test e + 600mg eq
500mg test e

I took 4 months off and as expected lost a lot of mass and strength. So here we go.

Cycle:
600mg test e per week split into 300mg monday and 300mg thursday
.5mg arimidex EOD or as needed
alternating pin sites
25g 1 1/2" for glutes week 1
25g 1" for quads outer sweep week 2
continue rotating injections sites every week

Diet: Weeks 1-4
Calories: 2400
Protein: 500g
Carbs: 100g
Fats: 20g

The goal here is to recomp the first 4 weeks. I'll drop about a lb a day with a 60 minute weight session. Every 4-5 days I'll add around 400-600g carbs to re fill muscle glycogen back to 80-90% full. My starting weight after being completely full with some spill over was 175lbs. Once I drop 6-8lbs of fat I'll be pretty lean and a lot bigger so I'll switch to something like this.

Diet Weeks 5+
Calories: 3200+
Protein: 500g
Carbs: 200g
Fats: 40g

The goal here is to maintain a steady body weight daily. If my weight starts to drop I'll add carbs and keep them raised. I'm not sure how high my calories will go but I'll keep a log if anyone is curious.

Cycle Length: 20+ Weeks
Expected Results: +15-20lbs of lean body mass while dropping 6-8lbs of body fat

jkray's picture

I don't understand your math; 500 grams of
Protein is 2000 calories, but your diet is at 2400 calories.

And You're planning to lose 1lb per day on test e. Let's say your BMR is 3200 calories and you eat 2400 calories your negative 800 calories. So you're workout is going to have to be an extremely vigorous lifting session that lasts 4.5 hours to give you a one pound weight loss... Then, of course your test e will be doing great things with that 500 grams of protein, so...

IrishMack's picture

Dont forget muffin fridays. And tootsie rolls you get every day. You will bulk like crazy that way.

Catalyst's picture

Good plan. You might learn how to maintain a physique without relying purely on drugs then ;)

I took 4 months off and as expected lost a lot of mass and strength.

DfromPhilly's picture

He's not learning anything if he sticks with 2400 cals. No wonder he keeps going back to 170-175.

This wreaks of kid.

robxl12321's picture

lol no need to be a smart ass bro. if all you want to do is gain 20 pounds you can do so without the drugs is what we are telling you. you sure youre not 18 years old? this is the kind of comment a kid would respond with

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Dacky's picture

All the advise below is spot on and here is some further food for thought - You may not be able to hold onto your gains because at 175lb and 12 to 14% BF you simple do not have enough of a base on which to build muscle from a cycle. So your gains are in fact predominately water which come of pretty quick once you're off cycle no matter how good and consisten your PCT, diet and training etc. Now I know you're 5"6 but at least another 10 to 15lb of lean muscle needs to be added before you should be considering a cycle.

Makwa's picture

I took 4 months off and as expected lost a lot of mass and strength.

What's up with this? You need to be consistent here otherwise you are just going to keep yo-yoing. Hop on cycle gain weight, off cycle lose it all. Not very healthy. You shouldn't be losing much mass after your cycle is over. I am assuming you will be heavier than 175 if you gain back the mass you lost? Get that back before you consider cycling again.

The goal here is to recomp the first 4 weeks.

You are wasting your time here. Either lose fat or gain muscle. You can't do both very successfully.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels

Diet: Weeks 1-4
Calories: 2400
Protein: 500g
Carbs: 100g
Fats: 20g

Your diet is way messed up. 500g of protein! Totally unnecessary and a waste of a lot of protein. Eating only 20-40 g of fat you are going to have a hard time dropping any fat. Starve your body of fat and it is going to hold on to the fat it has for dear life.

Expected Results: +15-20lbs of lean body mass while dropping 6-8lbs of body fat

Pick one or the other because both surely aren't going to happen.

Cycle Length: 20+ Weeks

Way too long. Get back the mass you lost and put some more on before you even consider running a cycle. Make sure you know how to retain that mass after you get it back or you are just going to keep yo-yoing.

robxl12321's picture

i said the same thing to this guy in his other forum.

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BigWA67's picture

That's what I was referring to in my comment

Makwa's picture

Probably was hoping for a different outcome with this post.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro,

The notion of a "recomp" is the dream of every bodybuilder. I've seen many well thought out approaches on paper that make this look attainable. I have never seen it succeed, either personally, or with anybody I know.

Why?

Read this: It's a good overview of why this doesn't work in practice.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels

BigWA67's picture

Maybe you should go reread the advice you already got on this post from a few days ago https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/500mg-test-blood...