posted Mon, 09/24/2018 - 02:16
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+ 2 seeking advise.. First time on Tren E
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Hi guys,
I've decided to do a Tren E & Sustanon a 12 week cycle , i've only done 3 cycles so far in over 3 years mostly Sustanon, dbol, Anavar and Test E...
I did some reasearch on Tren cycles but cant really pin point the dosage... my goal is to bulk up and lose fat at the same time.
What do you guys think?? Is this doable or am i asking for heart attack?? 
Thanks,
Age 39,
Weght: 192
Hight: 6
Cycle would be:
'' Sustanon-350 ( 500mg ew) 1-12
'' Tren E (300mg ew) 2-12
'' Anavar (40mg ed)
"Arimidex (0.5 eod)
"PCT - Novadex , Clomid 14-18
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Why do you feel the need to leap into tren?
I’ve never ran the stuff but I’ve flirted with the idea many times and still do. The way I understand it you better have your life in close to perfect order. If in a relationship you better make sure it’s better than good and if you have a job or career you care about also make sure it’s good. One bad day at work or with the lady and you might lose something you care about. I’ve seen guys on it and they are a bit snappy and don’t even realize it. The results seem amazing but there’s a lot that comes with it. They don’t call it the Tren train for nothing. I think there’s other compounds you could run and be happy. No rush In this game, it’s a marathon not a race.
PcushionA lot of people don’t take tren well at all. When you are going to try a hormone that does not sit well with a lot of people and side effects are guaranteed with 99% of users always pick the quickest ester. Faster in faster out. This isn’t cycle advice bc you have already been given all that you need. This is hormone advice. My two cents are to just leave tren alone. Tren use breaks down to roughly three groups of users;
Train wreck group- these are the guys whose side effects are out of control and makes them unable to live life like a normal person. They never touch it again.
Greater good group- these guys have side effects but minimize them as much as they can and deal with what they can’t for the end result.
Addiction group- this is where I fall. I have zero side effects from tren even on the high end of dosage. My body just takes it well. I don’t need caber, zero night sweats, zero anger, and no sleep lose. Just pure results... This is what makes tren so addictive. If I knew then what i know now I would have left it alone. I never recommend anyone try this compound. Some doors are better left unopened.
Solid info. And it's actual personal experience. Welcome to level one.
PcushionThank you a bunch my friend. Proud to be a productive member.
Solid advice +1 from me. You’ll be fucked if you gotta deal with it for a few weeks if it sits uneasy. I’ve heard of guys getting the Tren flue and trying to survive until it clears out. Sounds like a fucked up few weeks. I haven’t touched the stuff yet I always hear mixed reviews plus I am in no rush to jump on that train.
PcushionJust leave it be man. In my eyes it’s not a justifiable decision to say yes to outside of a professional bodybuilding level.
RustyhookerNice add. Shorts can get you out faster. +2
basskiller89X2
PcushionThanks my man for the karma. I am just not good with the short and simple explanations. Hormones are something I am extremely passionate about and feel I am selling myself short with just the basic stuff.
So you can manage a straight 8 hours sleep without waking at all to eat?
PcushionI usually set an alarm to eat during the night. It’s usually just a high protein and essential fat shake with no carbs. Tren doesn’t effect my appetite though. I only drink the shake to keep the fire “stoked”. Fun fact though I found through the years on quite a few people who came to me for advice that cutting carbs by 3-5 pm for a normal person does help with the night sweats drastically. Not sure why.
You have a lot of wonderful substances before trying Tren... EQ is one of my fav. and Deca does good for putting mass... And for Tren E, 300 mg is too much (at least for me)
Id go with 600 EQ for 16 months instead of Tren E..
And when you are ready for Tren, try Tren A.. and Never do 300 mg tren if you don't have experience with it.
Only 3 cycles? No tren....
I’ll save the Tren for next time.. thanks guys!!! I appreciate all your comments, @20% body fat I guess I am asking for a heart attack
Not trying to be a dick, but running tren @20% bf is just extremely irresponsible. Focus on diet and also focus on some research next time as well
Also, stop ur cycle
this^^^ with 20%bf
6' and 192 lbs with 20% BF makes me real hesitant about giving any type of cycle advice. You really have little muscle mass on your frame. The compounds you have chosen all scream that you are real inexperienced with cycling and nowhere near ready to be running advanced compounds such as sustanon and tren.
I would be more interested in how you have your diet laid out trying to achieve your goal of bulking and cutting at the same time. As far as that goal, try chasing two squirrels at the same time and you won't catch either one.
No...
if I was you id wait a couple cycles more and then I would run tren a not e !! if something goes wrong with e your fucked for atleast 2weeks until its out from you!! ace is best fast in fast out !! dose wise if its proper dosed 50eod is enough !! hope this helps stay safe !
With only three cycles under your belt I wouldn't recommend running tren, much less Tren E. I'm sure you've read about the sides and everything that goes along with a tren cycle, it's no joke. I won't even mess with Tren E and I've been doing AAS for over a decade because when tren sides hit they hit hard. Easier to bail out with Tren ace, out of your system in a few days compared to Tren E you'll have to deal with the sides for at least a couple weeks after last pin. You might want to rethink this cycle.
Celestiax*Not an advise -
I heard horror stories about tren e and its lingering side effects. The convenience of fewer injections doesn't warrant its use, unless you have other reasons, and many people Opt out for Tren Ace. As far as dose, according to bro scientists basing opinions in my day on the binding affinity to Andro Receptors, excess test could convert and cause unnecessary complications. (not an advise) but that was the conventional wisdom pre-eroids and online forums.
Sustanon is too complicated for me and I'd always pick a single Ester over it every time.
Why 40 MG anavar and how will you split it to maintain stable blood levels? And what's your body fat? If it's anything over a very low double digit like 11-12% you'd be better off saving it, because you won't get much aside from strength increase which shouldn't be important since you're running the strongest injectable and test.
Your ptc can benefit from hcg, especially with a harsh compound like tren. Read up on it.
If I were to run tren which I don't plan on touching unless I'm in an incredible shape to begin, I'd do something simple like :
Tren A 100 MG eod week 1-9
Test P 100 MG eod week 1-12
Anavar 20 MG every 9 hours week 6-12
Then research a very solid ptc protocol.
In all honesty, after 3 cycles your weight should not be this low unless you have metabolic issues or extenuating life curcumstances keeping you from eating and exercising well. Maybe you can benefit from an improved diet and exercise. Talk to a nutritionist 'covered by most insurance', Kinesiologist, and doing regular blood tests. Read up on various exercise routines and work to balance your strength, I.e strengthen lagging body parts and bring it up to have a unified strength levels across all muscle groups.
Maybe a simpler cycle is better for you at this time.
Test alone, or maybe an oral with it.
Again, not an advise. Wait for vets to chime in and see what they have to say.
All the best...
You should NOT be giving advice on trenbolone - You are telling him to run tren ace for 9 weeks on his first run of it?!?...
CelestiaxI clearly said not an advise multiple time. The only time I advised him of something was to wait for vets to chime in.
you have some good info in there but then you say "not advise" but you basically list a sample cycle for him to run which he is clearly not ready for. here is a sample cycle that I think would be better but don't run it is still giving advice, albeit bad advice
CelestiaxPoint taken.
Drop the tren, run the sust and the var. maybe some proviron to stay dry and help the test do it’s thing.
Thank you for asking, the fact that you did shows you knew you didn’t need it.
Great advice my bearded brother, couldn't agree more.