posted Fri, 12/26/2014 - 06:09
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Hey guy's I'm on my lean bulk with 275mg Test E, E3-4D and Letrozole 1.25mg E3-4D.
I'm looking to do a show in May.
After this Cycle I've got about 12 Weeks to prepare still lean at about 6-8% Body fat.
My Cycle would be like this:
Test E 100mg E3D / Week1-10
Tren A 50mg ED / till 4 Days out
Clen 40-120mcg ED / 2 Weeks on/off till 4 Days out
T3 last 6 Weeks at 25-100mcg ED/ till 4 Days out
Letrozole 1.25mg E3-4D, last 2 Weeks 2.5mg ED, till 4 Days out
If I have to do a urine test, would I pass it?
since the active live of Tren A is about 2-3 Days but it's detectable for up to 5 months....
Don't know when to stop to test negative if there's a test.
thank u for u're help
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i just wanna say that i just started posting here but i came across this post and i have a whole lot of respect for the guys that posted here. when i posted my first time they were the same guys to reply to me with great advice and if i could give karma i would load them up because they are very knowledgeable and to the point with their facts. thanks for keeping it real guys and keeping us all straight
If you play nice, these guys will go out of their way to help you. Lie / bullshit or behave like a "know it all" and you get nothing.
wtf, IFBB my ass. you will have to start NPC like everyone else, but you should know that already...NO RESEARCH!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/rules-and-regulations.htm
You are willing to be on TRT at 18 years old? Crazy.
Gonna blast and cruise your way to the top of the Men's Physique world? Possibly, but doubtful.
Kid, do you hope to have children someday? You might rob yourself of this if you're not careful.
Would you like to have you dick not work? Damn, at 18 that would suck!
How are you going to do an IFBB show without a pro card?
RustyhookerI wondered if he meant qualifier for nationals or pro qualifier, but below he just argued.
These kids are crazy to think that they are only one cycle of test, tren, and mast away from earning a living as an IFBB Physique athlete. I hear so many college age guys at my gym talking about tren and T3 and how they are gonna kill it on stage it blows me away. You can have a pretty amazing body without putting your health so at risk. The problem with youth today is they want to have everything immediately and do not want to put in the hard work and time that is required to be successful at anything.
To think that a teenager is willing to put himself on self-prescribed TRT is beyond belief.
RustyhookerA lot of what we read has been common for decades. The newer deal with slin, dnp and thyroid worries me with the users just enjoying growth. There's a toll we all take but the death factor or thyroid shutdown...scarey.
RustyhookerI JUST POPPED A BAN. SIR, HAD YOU AT LEAST TRIED TO LISTEN YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE ADVICE. IF YOU RE IFBB, THEN WHY ASK HERE. THATS PRO STATES AS FAR AS I KNOW. THIS IS EXACTLY OF WHY KIDDIES GET SHUT DOWN.
Did you just pop your ban cherry ??
RustyhookerNo sir. Just wished young folks would try to learn. I grew up with old dudes teaching me the ropes. I tried to remember all the tricks so I came out stronger and better. There's young dudes here that are rocked! Look at their approach and it's obvious why they succeed.
Anyone who succeeds in this game has one thing in common. They know how to eat and do it consistently. And of course they know how to train but i like to believe the majority of people here train hard they just lack in the diet area and try to compensate with higher doses of drugs. Maybe I'm totally wrong and some of these dudes don't even train consistently but I find that hard to believe, Trainings the best part of this lifestyle. Diets everything there's no breakdown of percentages without a good diet you're not gonna get anyone despite how hard you train or how much gear you shoot.
RustyhookerI'm definitly not Johnny 6pack. But when I'm lean or look like midget wwe wrestler it's all about foods. I'm knee high and can be clean cut 195. I think it's achievable for most.
The hard gainers that are short can kick ass in comp. Pump n pose. My old trainer won often. Short n shredded lightweight butt kicker. Tall guys the physique comps are perfect proving grounds imo
Hell ya man, you 5'4 shredded is a monster. Me shredded at 195 is just aesthetic, not big, big to some but not in Bodybuidling standards. To compare to someone 5'4 195 id have to be about 250 lean easy. Physique is good for us tall guys. But it limits how much we can grow. Somewhere betwen 185-200 would be perfect size for me in physique. But wtf I don't wanna not be able to grow year to year. You can very easily be to big in physique. Not that I'm there yet but there will come a time when getting bigger will only hurt me. Then I'll quit competing . Can't imagine having an entire offseason and not being able to get bigger. Maybe switch to bodybuilding at that point.
RustyhookerI wish I was shredded at 195! I'm gonna spend the next year trying for 210 lean so I can try the 195 shredded. I'm plenty happy at 190 lean. I've got a ton of diet learning before I can try shredded.
Definitly keep at your happy/ideal size. Most chick's prefer lean and defined over huge and cut.
Like I care what girls think. I got so much pussy at 6ft 130. That's not why I got into this lifestyle I do it cauee I trully enjoy it and gives me someting to focus on 24/7 365 and I need that. As my body has changed I've noticed I attract different types of girls. When I was a weak frail twig I would attract the cute innocent looking girls (Which I kinda miss lol) but I think I intimidate them now. And now I attract more like how do you describe this the id call them women. Befoe I attracted girls and now I attract women if that makes any sense at all. I really still like the innocent cute look tho. But I can also fuck with the fitness chicks with the crazy bodies which probably would have never happened in the past lol. So they're will always be girls out there that are into whatever size you are wether that's the aesthestic men's physique look or the mass monster look and that's what I'm going for and if someone isn't into that so be it. It makes me happy.
RustyhookerAgree! There's women of all shapes and sizes out there. Fun times for sure! I like how the gym knocks down my edginess. Beat up the weight stack and feel tons better.
Let me get this right....
You want to prep for a comp on gear and if you get tested then you can say your natty?
And your only 18?
If this is the case it may be an idea to leave the gear alone for at least 6 years and make some gains off your own steam and in the mean time try doing a comp as to where you dont need lie about gear usage as thats just robbing the people that stick to the rules.
LCFNdude I don't want to say I'm natty I don't plan on competing in a "Natural" Show.
I will compete in the IFBB ( Men's Physique ) and don't know if they test. I don't think so but on their website is listed something about WADA...
So you want to pass tests to appear as though you're natty?
At your age it's eroids policy not to give you steroid advice.
LCFNno I don't want to be "natty" but I'm not going to say I'm "on" if you know what I mean.
I'm doing a IFBB show, they test occasionally but just to be safe I wanted to ask.
I've read your other forums and you already know we can't help you as you've been told multiple times. I also read you're a celebrity. My advice is therefore to hire a coach, some of them lack ethical working practices and won't care that you're young, then you'll be able to get the answers you need.
LCFNwhere can i find a coach for Steroids?
I can only assume you're joking?
I've just remembered why I don't get involved in the cycles pages much these days......
It's not all doom and gloom. We actually have success steering people on the right track.
And now I remember this guy, mr. Superstar celebrity on IG. Thanks for refreshing my memory!
Give it a couple of years and synicism kicks in ;)
I'm already feelin the onset of it, I guess I just haven't dealt with it enough to completely give up hope!
I still try for whatever reason. I orginally got one person to listen when him and his buddy were gonna do it together and he listened and his friend still went along with it. Had him on a good diet and training split and he was making huge progress then he started asking me about the gear again and I obviously said the same thing I did befor then never heard from ham again. My guess is he went foward with the cycle. Might have had a few others who listened to but overall the success rate is probably about 10%.
Yeah I hear you. I try to do the same all the time but go figure, the kids nowadays are impatient and want all the results without the work. A 10% conversion rate is still better than 0%. And I'd rather have 10% of something than 100% of nothing.
You're 18, weigh 172lbs, and want to run test tren, and then clen AND t3?
You ever heard of eating more? This is a joke I hope, as you're planning to fuck your entire system over before its even had a chance to think about full maturation... Listen to iron game. He has more knowledge now than most people do in their entire lifetimes. Don't go through with this kid.
LCFNyes sir I've heard about eating more and just getting fat ;D not really my intention and doesn't go well in my Job.
Clean and T3 is just pre contest. And I'm not 100% sure if I'll use Tren. And yes I weigh about 172-175 pounds but at 6-8% Bodyfat! I could easily be heavier in higher body fat region. Not really what I'm looking to do.
I guess I'll just stick to Prop without Tren
and add Clen, T3 and the Letro pre contest
And you could be heavier at 6-8% body fat. It's eroids policy not to help members under 25 for good reason. The clen is not the brightest idea, and the T3 will fuck your thyroid up... But what do I know, it's not like I was 18 once and doing dumb shit that I'm now regretting.
I wish you luck, and hope you stay safe. There's no rush to get where you want in life, remember that.
Right bro, if I could only go back in time to when I was 18 and do things very very differently. I wish.
I'm with you, and this would only be going back 6 years... Once I'm older... Jesus Christ I can't even think about how much I'll wish to have done things differently... All I can do now is live with my choices and move on, and make the best of what I have. That and try to persuade the younger kids on here not to do the same shit I did.
You're 18. If you keep doing this shit you're dick is not gonna work anymore I promise you that. You are not mature enough yet to be making decisions that will effect the rest of your life. Depending how reckless you get with this shit your life might not be all that long .
LCFNActually I am, I will blast and cruise on low doses till my career is over, than TRT.
I just don't know when to stop to test negative "if they test me".
Your proposing to run testosterone enathate, how the fuck are you mature enogh to make a decision that will effect you for the rest of your life when you possess the intellectual capabilities to infer based off the long half life of enathate that it's gonna be detectable in your system for many many months possibly a year? Cmon son, fuck outta here with that bullshit.
LCFNisn't the half life about 10 Days on Test E?
Look bro I'm sorry I can't help you. It's eroids policy. We do things very very differently around here safety is the number one concern. And that's why when you go look at post cycle blood work 99% of people are in good health and have fully recovered following out advice. I have two friends who started using gear at your age and neither of these poor bastards can get their dicks hard without ed medicine at only 25 years old.
Here's an example of why you don't have a clue. When I was 18 I didn't want to go to college. Well I'm about to get my masters degree now. At 18 my interest and life style were totally different then they are today but when I was 18 you couldn't tell me differently. I totally believed I was gonna do those things for the rest of my life. So I'm not saying you're gonna stop working out, but fuck man the potential consequences of what you're doing now include a lot more then just trt for life. Look into the side effects of long term pituitary suppression, long term effects of extreme poor lipid profiles , the consequences of fucking with thyroid drugs, matter of fact click on catalysts profile go to forum and read his post about it. He wasn't to lucky using conservative doses for short periods of time, the effects of clenbuterol on the heart, trenbolone and the heart. I know a guy who used when he was your age and used to love tren and now at 30 he has heart failure. Is that a guarantee ? Na there guys at 60 still going strong but then there's this 30 year old who's probally gonna die. But the point I'm making these decision wil effect you for the rest of your life and you're not at an age where you're ready to make them. But you ain't gonna listen and I just got cariried away and lost 20 minutes of my life. Wish you the best kid.
Do an NPC show and don't worry about drug tests.
LCFNI'll do a IFBB show