COMPLETE NEWB PLEASE HELP
Hello, I'm 28 yrs old, 5'11'' and 190lbs. and blind as a bat, I want to try and cycle something to take myself to the next level but there is so much info online i dont know wtf to do. I've never done a cycle before. I hit the gym about 4 times a weak with a decent diet. Al I use is whey protein. I'm looking for a light/moderate cycle nothing too crazy.I've been looking into hgh because it seems safer but alot of people say it's pointless unless you stack it with something. I've heard good things about igf and mk677 but once again i don't know what i'm talking about. All the info on the different kinds of juice and hgh is confusing. Can someone please help point me in the right direction? I'm going for lean muscle and strength. An all the above type cycle would be good too.
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basskiller89Hey brother,
There are a lot of good articles on here about how to run a first cycle. I'd stick to research for now
As seen as there's already quite a lot of comedy on this page - I just wanted to give anyone who's having a bit of a crappy friday a good laugh, this is hilarious!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZO9wy22SY4
TomHarrysonTotal for the entire treatment you need 126 tabl. -2 packs of Methandienone.This cycle is about 8 to 10 kg of muscle mass and strength of 10-20 kg more in training. 8 weeks taking only Methandienone. In the first week, the dosage is 10 mg and then increases the dosage 10 mg until the third week. Then 3, 4th, 5th and 6th week, the dose is 30 mg. Seventh week - 20 mg, and the last week watch again 10 mg.Taking the tablets after the meal.
First week - 1 tabl. after breakfast
second and seventh week - 1 tabl. after breakfast and 1. after dinner
third, fourth, fifth and sixth week - 1 tabl. after breakfast, 1 tabl. after lunch and 1. after dinner.
Alphamale500Bro, if you yourself don't know what the fuck you're talking about, as anyone who reads your cycle recommendation can see, then why are you giving this foolish and potentially dangerous information to someone else? DON'T GIVE OUT HARMFUL ADVICE ON THIS SITE! Please don't listen to any advice from this......person.
So you think it's a smart idea to do a orals only cycle? This is your advice for a newb? Idiot...
Alphamale500Really, how stupid can someone be? Unbelievable. SMFH!! +
TomHarrysonbullshit!
Alphamale500No it's not bullshit! Your advice is very fuckin stupid, dangerous, and possible harmful! You shouldn't be giving out this kind of advice, especially to a new guy! Like tattoofreak implied, what happens when other new guys see this harmful advice and possibly decide to try it? Are you stupid or just uninformed? Either way you shouldn't be giving advice like that!
Your advice is bullshit! You should be banned as soon as possible, before some of the noobs listen to you...
PcushionMan listening to your advice is like Helen Keller teaching someone to drive. You are the absolute worst person he could listen to.
Alphamale500Hahah! Lol!
I don't know who needs to attend Language School more - You or him.....
WTF,
are you suggesting a dbol only cycle?
TomHarrysonits first cycle!
Your advice is about as real as your pictures.
I get the feeling you are just fake as shit. How long before you try to sell something here?
I'm not sure if you'll even understand my fucking message, I'm sure you are using Google Translate.
I don't have a problem with guys from China or from India, just don't pretend to be Tom Harrison
Or the guys in one of those pictures you stole
So far Larry started the topic, you just asked Curly a question about his recommendations.
Still waiting for Moe to show up.
And some one will now add a gif.
That's cool bro.. if ur getting hung up and information is contradicting itself. This is a good place to talk about it..
Thanks everyone for the replies. I have been doing a lot of research but a lot of my research is contradicting. I admit that I didn't go through the forums on here and research I just posted the same topic on 3 forums. I do squats dead bench upright rows so I'm not a complete newb in the gym. I just wanted some info on what my first cycle should be. Thanks guys
RustyhookerI do squats dead bench upright rows so I'm not a complete newb in the gym.
Thats the very tip of the needle. Theres much more out there to create growth naturally
I've always found upright rows a pretty useless exercise in all honesty. If you want great traps or shoulders there are so many more harder hitting & effective exercises for them.
RustyhookerTry uprights with hands shoulders wide and keep bar out away from body about 6inches. It will pump em up quick. Plus the secondaries...
I was just pointing out to dude that 4 lifts typically dont build a beast. Compound movements are good but ive just never seen a mass monster build without adding in angles, isolation etc.
Hey mate it wasn't a dig at you lol It was just a general statement saying I think they are a cr** exercise. You got me wrong, I was more or less agreeing with you. Although I'm only into poundages on the bar - you'd be surprised just how much mass you can gain from just increasing to big loads on bench / deads / squats / rows. Build big on those and you can easily grow big, although yes never 'complete' looking as such.
RustyhookerLol....no arguing. Im saying.....simply give it a try with wide grip and away from body. Typing sucks some days. Hahaha!
H igh five
PcushionI enjoy them using light weight. It’s a good way to keep tension on the shoulders. For me they don’t really grow the shoulder, front or rear delts but more push them into what I like to call secondary development.
I use the smith machine and am able to focus on different parts of my traps and shoulders, depending on my arm/elbow position. Always get a great burn/pump.
PcushionThe burn can get serious with those!
They hurt my shoulders too much. I prefer to just deadlift my car, works my traps better.
Absolutely bro lol I use to get pain in my wrists/forarms doing them. I don't think there's a better exercise for big thick yoked traps than heavy deadlifts - they work even better than shrugs personally as you are getting the added stretch pulling from the floor also!
PcushionBarbell overhead press super setted with overhead dumbbell presses rotating wrist forward and wrist in
will grow big boy traps.
Agreed! I used to not DL due to lower back issues but i have pushed through it the last 6 months and built up the support muscles to do it and not hurt. Traps have grown more in the last 2 months than they have in the last 18 months.
PcushionSupport muscles are key with a lot of exercises. Developing the smaller muscles help prevent injury. When you push hard and the larger muscle groups fail if you don’t have the smaller ones in place you can find yourself out of commission.
OMFG, we're not going to hold your hand for you.
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Greg, you scare me when you yell. Please use an inside voice so you dont intimidate everyone with your toxic masculinity.
basskiller89Hey brother,
My first cycle was 500mg test e for I believe 12 weeks. I took an ai and had bloods. Safe in sound. From my experience, peptides are what I prefer. It's hard to say without bloods. You should send Rusty or Makwa a PM
Welcome to eroids. So ur not blind enough to find this website and ask for a cosigner. Just like everyone has said u have to do ur research on ur own. Then ask questions about what uve read and members tend to soften up. The first thing I wld start researching is diet (foods, macros, micros,tdee,body fat,and types). Experiment and experience this first because this is base of ur anabolic cycle.. Then u cld update ur stats and ask more educated questions. Members are very helpful but no spoon feedings. Stick around and enjoy brother.
If you have any questions dial information.
Thank you for calling.
Alphamale500I can point you to the search bar(with the magnifying glass) under the blue downward facing arrow in the top right corner of this page. Do some research and learn. More importantly, do your necessary research on scientific sites on the internet.
Why would you just wanna use what someone tells you to, without knowing exactly what you're taking, or exactly how and what it does to your body and what kind of side effects it will have?
"I want to try and cycle something to take myself to the next level but there is so much info online i dont know wtf to do."- READ IT AND LEARN!!
You need to do some reading! What you do is a personal decision, and no one can make it but you! You need to do a lil work here.
From what you describe you could make some decent gains without GEAR! Your supplements are limited, and you prolly need to improve your diet and what do in the gym! Then consider a cycle.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/sterilization
You're looking for someone to spend their time helping you but you won't even spend the time to help yourself! Be patient, keep reading.. 5'11" and 190 is nowhere near your natural limit even with terrible genetics. I bet you could gain 20-30lbs of lean muscle in the next year or two with clean eating and hard training. Running any cycle is going to do the same thing for you, EXCEPT you will LOSE the gains without proper knowledge of PCT and keeping gains after cycle.
Seems like you have gone and got yourself all confused! Get all these other silly ideas out of your head and read up on basic first cycles - Test 500mg/wk split into 2 injections. Easy as that - No HGH, IGF-1 etc
PcushionKISS method = keep it simple stupid = newbie best friend
RustyhookerEven hellen keller discovered many things with research
Omg. LMAO
RustyhookerBah dim tiss....tip the waitress. Haha
You're walking into a donut shop and asking, "Where are the donuts?"
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Mmmmmm..........donuts
thanks now i want donuts
I have a box of raspberry filled powder sugar coated CENSORED donuts, ......... they won't last the day.