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Had a pack missing for a month and it showed up unexpectedly. It was below freezing all day. I read about crashed gear but frozen tren specifically I haven’t seen anything. Is it still good to use? Can I heat it up like crashed gear. My girl put it in the house but it sat all day in the mailbox so I’m pretty sure it was frozen solid.

CBBurrr's picture

I've had test undecanate crash.

That stuff in castor oil looks as solid as crisco

Frank_y's picture

With cold weather Tren tents to "crystalize" (and it looks like frozen). It´s due to the concentration of the compounds and because of the carrier oil.

You can warm it up by introducing the vial in warm water and shaking it from time to time. The compound will disolve again in the solvent oil and you can use it without any issue.

Frank

Bill1976's picture

Shit then I’m going to spread it in my driveway. I’ll get rid of my snowblower.

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Bill1976's picture

Every time I start my snowblower there is a line of snowmen mysteriously out in front of my house. Last week the had an igloo with a glory hole in it.

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KMC's picture

until it re-solidified

??????

until it dissolves. (ie, becomes liquid)

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Makwa's picture

Don't think I have ever seen a vial frozen solid and it gets pretty dang cold by me.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Just purchase a fina implant gun and implant the frozen tren. No problem.

KMC's picture

I'll wait for your after action report,....... er, I mean Rusty's PIP thread.

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press1's picture

& people wonder why Bull's hate humans Lol

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KMC's picture

They do NOT normally Tren/fina bulls, ........the steers and heifers you bet, .... but not bulls.

ETA: I was born on a farm.

Also with a steer on a feedlot, PIP would be the least of his concerns. (Guess who's coming to dinner).

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Engineereddisaster's picture

The fina gives the Steak fat a nice yellow tint. Smile

KMC's picture

WARNING
Yellow #5 is known to shrink testical size and reduce sperm counts.

NO HOMO.

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press1's picture

I'll take your word on that one then lol - How quickly do you notice the temperament change from when you've implanted trenbolone in them?

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Eagles 2013's picture

Treat it like crashed gear and you should be fine. Just be careful that none of the seal points on the vials broke when the oil froze, because it will have expanded and possibly increased the pressure inside of the vial, depending on how much air was in it. Similar to freezing a can of soda and it exploding.

If that's the case it's still not the end of the world. Just might make drawing a little more difficult and potentially cause leaks if the vial isn't kept upright.

sack-o-roids's picture

for a tren its quite possible that it got crystallised aswell due high content of actives in it. Give it a nice swirl in bowl of hot water till crystals dissolve and you'll be fine

johnmarshall12's picture

If it's heated up right and clear liquid ; it should be ok!

press1's picture

I've had this before with Tren ace over the christmas period when it was snowing outside lol It had big crystals in it but warming it up and bringing it to general room temperature it was temporarily fine but it never fully went back to normal again. You'll just have to heat it each time you use it like I did but it'll still work fine.

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Bill1976's picture

Does tren make your joints feel good like nandrolone? I hope so my shoulders and knuckles are always sore from impact wrenches and holding up machine parts all my life. I’m in pain right now. I won’t take pain medication. That shit is evil.

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press1's picture

In a word mate - NO lol My shoulders are often my sorest part/joint. When running trenbolone you are sweating a Lot during the night and generally throughout the day, even if you aren't sweating as such your body is running at a much higher temperature like a furnace inside. This means you are often dehydrated and its often hard to take in enough hydration to keep up with it I find. This in turn drys out your joints - you hold nowhere near as much water as say just Test/Deca as opposed to Test/Tren. BUT its still nothing like running something like winstrol which really does dry the joint and connective tissues out & really hurts.

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CBBurrr's picture

NOPE,
none of the joint lube that you get from Deca

ashop's picture

It should be fine once it warms up. If it falls out of solution (crystals) just get a cup of hot water and submerge/swirl your vial and it should go back into solution.

Bill1976's picture

Thank you for all the advise guys. This site is great it’s becoming my go to place. Not just for anabolics but it has all sorts of info on here. Don’t know what I would do without it now.

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Bill1976's picture

Ha! I’m good.

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robb's picture

If it's visually ok when looked at. All crystals have melted back into solution then it should be perfectly fine. Having it in such a cold place for a day would have probably zero effect on potency. I'd pin away...

heavymetalmonsterD's picture

It's just crashed I don't think it can freeze honestly

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KMC's picture

It's just crashed I don't think it can freeze honestly

CRASHED. GEAR: Turning from a liquid form to a crystal form ,......

Care to rethink your statement??

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Greg's picture

I think his assumption is that it has crashed and that there probably is an alcohol based preservative; in which case, it can't freeze completely.

KMC's picture

With crashed gear, isn't it the steroid powder that comes out of solution and presents as crystals in the solution.

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Greg's picture

Yes, that part which fell out of suspension. But, you still have a solution which is a mix of oil and preservative and, in some cases, AAS still suspended.

Crashed
Crashed and partly frozen
Crashed and frozen
Frozen

if you added salt to boiling water you can have "over salty", clear water. Cool the water and you'll have salt crystals floating in the non-frozen water. Taste the water it will still be salty -salt is still suspended in the water.

Add a little alcohol to the water and mix and you could resuspend some of those salt crystals.

Try and freeze the saltwater with alcohol and you could end up with a frozen daiquiri with salt crystals floating in it. Super freeze it and you could have an Ice Cube with salt crystals.

I can also imagine if it froze quick and cold enough, it would simply be frozen and not crashed.

KMC's picture

When water gets cold enough to change from a liquid to a crystal, we call it frozen.
When gear gets cold enough for the steroid power to change from a liquid to a crystal, we call it crashed.

Potato/ potato.

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KMC's picture

There's many reasons things crystallize and they aren't related to temperature.

Gear has a melting point, some compounds have a higher melting point than others. Solvent are used to lower the melting point. And they are pretty much all related to temperature. Heat gear above its melting point and you don't need solvent at all ( please visit Rusty's PIP thread first).

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KMC's picture

If something becomes solid it doesn't mean it's frozen.

Yes, if it is solid,...... it is below its melting point.

Go ahead and have your hard boiled eggs. I'm having chicken for dinner.

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KMC's picture

Alcohol freezes at -173.5°F

Ethyl alcohol freezes at 173.5°F

Benzyl alcohol freezes at 4.5°F. (Melts at 4.6°F).

Now, we are talking tren, so I assumed injectable Tren. Now I would not inject Ethl Alcohol but maybe it is the new trend.

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heavymetalmonsterD's picture

It wasn't that cold out lol

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CBBurrr's picture

I like to compare crashed gear to iced tea that has the sugar settled out.
When the tea is hot you can supersaturated with sugar. You can cool that tea off and the sugar will stay dissolved. All you have to do is drop a couple of granules of sugar into the cold tea and the rest of the sugar will fall out of solution. Similar to the way they make rock candy

heavymetalmonsterD's picture

Exactly my thought...

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CBBurrr's picture

Hmmm