posted Thu, 12/27/2012 - 06:02
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Alright guys need some help....Been running 900mg Test E/500mg Deca/500mg EQ. At around week 15 I have lost my libido and I am having a hard time getting & maintaining an erection. I’m freaking out cause I’ve always had a very high sex drive. Deca has never shut me down in the past so I can only assume it’s something to do w/the EQ (1st time running). I’ve dropped the EQ. Any suggestions???? I’d really like some New Year’s Nookie.
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I did a similar cycle for 16 weeks (test, Deca) (Also, I took caber throughout cycle as well with a rock solid PCT). I started this cycle March 2012. This cycle shut me down so hard that it took me a full year to get things back to normal. What I mean by normal is how I felt and how my blood work numbers looked. I went to an endo doc to get my blood work done. After 7 weeks off cycle (Including PCT time) my numbers were Test Serum: 392 Free Test Direct: 6.1, Estradiol: <5.1. My free test was low which in turn caused low libido. It took my body a very long time to get my free test back in order. There will be many that offer you "bro-science", but I am sharing with you my experience with an endo doc. There are no magic answers here...you will need to wait it out. Get your blood work done...know your numbers. Know your hormone deficiencies. Some things may helping depending on your numbers...tamoxifen, hcg, clomid etc, but you first need to know your numbers before you can create a plan of attack. In my case, it was just about waiting it out. Sure enough over the course of the year things got better. One very important thing I learned with all this (been cycling for a while) is that I will never do a 16 week cycle again. Shorter cycles with just using test will be it for me...or at least not using deca or tren. With deca half life is just too long to deal with. Just my humble take on it. Best of luck!
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I'm dealing with the same issue, blood tests are coming normal but my dick is gone, been using cialis ever then, I'm getting new labs coming in about 3 days from now, I ll let u know if i figure anything out. but as the first step , i would get blood test on prolactin , estrogen and progesterone
Well shit, my bloods are showing my test is at 245, but dick is fine. My girls gets near my shit and im ready to go!! Im trying to figure out wtf is up with me as well...
Testosterone and ED is two different issue. The only way u can get ED from low test is if ur test levels are lower then 60
Well thats good to know, still would like to know why my natty test is not coming back and not only that it is decreasing. I thought i would have issues getting my shit up even at 245 so appreciate the feedbck because that was confusing.
Try using GnRH and Run PCT again
CleyonGnRH worked really well for me. I'm a month out from my single shot of it, and just got my newest Test panel back. It is looking ike my testes are producing again, not to a MANLY level, but to a level 10x better than they were when my Dr put me on TRT. I may actually have to start worrying about PCT!
PM sent bro
See… this is what I love about this site! A bunch of good guys who’s got each other’s back with knowledgeable info & those who aren’t afraid to give a swift kick in the ass for those doing dumb shit. For a man I don’t think there’s much worse than your junk not working. I feel a lot better…thanks guys!
Blood test? Privatemedlabs....estro and prolactin. Eq keeps me always horney. Did uou use caber? How high ai use?
I have scheduled a test. I remember you telling me EQ kept you up. I have no idea what's going down. Best to test things out.
I'm sure its frustrating. High and low estro can cause the same so it makes a guessing game. Test will get you back on track.
Hey Hench, EatBig just went through the same thing and everybody was blaming the 19nor, turned out to be low estrogen not prolactin.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-help-please
Thanks bro. That sounds on point...def. been feeling weak & sensitive/emotional like a chick which is NOT me at all lol.
Tronok brother. You did not say anything about taking any estro blocker on this cycle. I am assuming you are but if not than your estro is too high! I had the same issue a while back running a low test dosage getting out of the habit of taking my exemestane and had the exact issue you are having. A week back on the stane and i was waking up with morning wood again ;-) Anyways, if thats not the issue get ya some caber and viagra and the "new years nookie" wont stand a chance against you!!! your gonna be alright my friend. dont freak out. just be cool and know there is a solution to your problem.
Quick typing Bro, I was trying to find eatbig's link!
Thank you my friend!
TronNo prob! Hey, just be careful when your soldier is back standing at attention! when that dude comes back to life there are gonna to be some nookie casualties cause he is gonna go to war!!! hey, if you got some prop on hand try running a cc of that in the meantime that might get you thrugh a night or two!
Anonit's from prolactin buildup most likely, brother. 19nor compounds like deca will cause elevations in prolactin levels. some of the symptoms include sexual dysfunction, gyno, and lactating nipples. prolactin gyno is a lot harder to battle than estro gyno. you need to get some caber or prami asap. what ancillaries are you running with this cycle?
Dostinex, but I'm thinking it to be counterfit. I've just never had this problem w/deca in the past. So I'm screwed untill I can get my hands on some caber?
Anondostinex is caber, brother... chances are that yours is bunk. unless it's your prostate. if privatemedlabs is an option to you, i would go order a female hormone panel and add prolactin to it. if you've been taking your dostinex properly, this will tell you if it's fake or not. or, we can just assume it's fake and blame it as the culprit. i say run the labs so you know for sure. you can run them tomorrow and have your results back early next week.
Thanks bro...if labs are run & my prolaction is out of whack. Legit caber should get me back on track ya think?
Anonyes. i would add some saw palmetto for prostate support, and i would drop the deca now so you don't keep building up prolactin levels. use this as a learning lesson and make sure to have good ancillaries in hand before you start. use those ancillaries to safeguard against the neg sides not to counteract them. easier to control at the forefront, brother. fr sent btw
Oh low dose of t3 will help with the prolactin also.. Don't take it like your trying to burn fat.. your just supping the t3 you lose from deca suppressing your natty t3
Anongood point!
Yes bro, lesson def. learned. I have been taking saw palmetto for about two weeks now. Thank you for the help.
Like dos was saying if you need help finding decent sources send me a pm, I know this has got to be a pain for you
Yeah brotha I appreciate that. FR sent.
You could go ahead and look into getting prami as your back up when things like this happen.. Since caber is bunked a lot lately.
Anonright now, i think he needs a solid source for either one. no time for trial and error IMO. don't you have a good src for caber? i don't fool with 19nors, so i sure don't.
Just meant to actually buy both prami and caber this round.. if both work then great and he can use the other in the future
Yeah I do, I'm more than willing to help out
samick94DECA DICK!! welcome to the world of juice my friend! drop the deca and run test 2-3 weeks longer. also some caber and hcg will help.. have you been taking hcg on cycle?
Sounds like a prolactin issue, have u been using caber/prami?
No,I have not.
Well there's your answer brother, i'd drop the deca or at least lower it, and get on some caber/prami asap
Anonhe's been using dostinex, which is caber. but, we all know how much bogus caber is floating around out there..
True true..