+ 8 Prolactin - Caber and B6
Can’t say I read many books but I’m a big advocate of reading research on steroids and everything else which is involved. While reading up about vitamin B6 I stubbled upon this study. Back in the day I read a lot that you need to run caber throughout a 19nor cycle otherwise you’d get high prolactin almost straightaway, you read it less now but it does pop up every now and then. Of course bloods and how you feel should dictate any drug usage be it an ai or dopaminergic drug.
I’m somebody who needs to run caber around week 6-8 for 2 or so weeks in a Tren blast and very similar in a deca other wise I get mood swings and generally feel odd. Caber comes with a whole list of its own problems so I’ve been more interested in B6 (or the P5P version which apparently is more bio available to us as also less risk of nerve damage) for a while now. After reading this a study I’m convinced to give B6 a go in my next Tren blast to see how I feel throughout. Although it doesn’t work on everybody as well as caber does, it’s side free as long as you don’t take huge amounts for months on end and it’s cheap as chips.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328137742_The_Role_of_Vitamin_B...
Granted the study is on women and not 60 meatheads blasting Tren but the results are there and as a bonus increases GH levels a little.
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https://www.eroids.com/pics/prolactin-vs.-p5p-experiment
I take a supplement that has Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate which is a bioactive Coenzyme form of Vitamin B6. It also has Vitex Agnus Castus and Mucuna Pruriens. These ingredients have been shown in studies to lower prolactin levels. I am currently taking it with my tren cycle. What I noticed is the decrease of recovery time between orgasms which is also an effect associated with Caber. This tells me that it is indeed lowering my prolactin levels.
Seems it works for some and not others. I used P5P in my most recent Tren blast and found it helped somewhat, I found I had to run it throughout to not get that uneasy feeling which would tell me the prolactin raised fast once I stopped supplementing with P5P.
Caber on the other hand, I can sprinkle it here and there a blast which makes it cheaper and I get instant results which last longer also. No bloods to back any of this up but I’m quiet sensitive to change in my body which I can usually go off with success. I’m still undecided as I’d prefer not to take caber at all but for a couple of weeks at a low dose hasn’t given me any negative sides.
Had bloods pulled for prolactin yesterday. Im not expecting earth shattering results, as I wasn't in the red, and am only dosing the b6 @ 50mg ed. But I made a comitment to the bit, and it will be interesting to see any decrease. Stay tuned.
Staying tuned captain. Legend for doing this.
Got my results the other day. Just been super busy this week. I'll get a post put together this weekend. Rather interesting results to be sure.
Hi mate, what did your bloods say?
F@#k! I completely forgot to post up. Been busy as all hell. Long story short, they went in the wrong direction. Ill post the results tonight and we'll have our team of experts break things down.
Got my prolactin numbers back today. They actually look great. Ill still be doing the b6 however to see if it drops at all. Cheers.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloodwork-for-pp-testedp-npp-wprolactin
Solid bro, would have been great if they were a little higher for the experiment but it’s good news you’re at a healthy level!
Yeah I was expecting higher. But I'm not complaining. Now I have a rough idea of how I handle the compound. Which seems to be pretty well.
I may run a lower dose of the b6. Possibly 50ed. Considering my numbers are on the low end, I don't wanna bottom out.
Loved reading this post because it's exactly what I preach; don't take any compounds or ancillaries to counteract anything unless you feel or know through bloodwork that something isn't right.
Personally I don't need Caber or any AI's on-cycle when I'm just running moderate dosages. Feel completely fine on Deca, never got erectile dysfunction or nipple issues, nor were my bloods off, yet I still have caber on-hand just in case.
Do need it for the tren as it improves my sleep on it and I don't feel as beat-up though.
I'll check back to see what your bloods revealed, and some other insights on the B6 usage, interested in this myself.
I think most of eroids are of the same thoughts now a days.
My first cycle I took a huge dose of adex as that’s what I was reading on the internet and I crashed my e2 and for the rest of the time I was on I was yo-yoing my levels. Same with caber, I ran it straight away when I first ran Tren and it wasn’t needed.
I’m also interested in b6’s effect on blood sugars and high BP and I’m currently reading more up about it.
Just to keep you guys in the loop. I haven't forgotten my commitment to testing this out. Bloods were drawn this morning. Full male hormone panel w/prolactin. I'm not expecting to be in the red on prolactin, but should be elevate enough to test the theory.
That’s great news bro. I myself recently took bloods and my prolactin was high at the end of a 12 week cruise, which was strange as I was feeling great with 0 sides.
I only had caber as my b6 P-5-P wasn’t due for a few days so out of pure fear of mood swings and leaky nipples I boshed 3 dosages over 8 days. I’m now taking the b6 and I’m running Tren and feeling great. Not sure what to make of it but I’ll pull bloods again either towards the end of the blast or after it and post the results.
Nice. How are you dosing the b6?
The study said 50-200 so I went with 100 of P-5-P B6 ED. How were you going to?
So far I’m feeling great, I like to keep my e2 relatively high so I’m taking as little ai as possible and I’m not suffering with and mood swings or crazy feeling I can get when my prolactin is raising during a Tren blast, still early days.
I am trying to split it am/pm but mostly taking at night in one dose.
I’m going to see a doctor about my high prolactin results and ask for a pituitary MRI to be on the safe side. They’re super busy because of the COVID-19 so it might be sometime but I’ll hopefully post those results too.
Gent. Nice 1
I did 500 mg of B6 & 3000mg of Taurine w/ it! I felt better on that stack! Although, went in for blood work & B levels were off the chart! Doc told me to stop(I did) & I started sleeping better too after that.
I've read about this but I've never tried it, I'm really interested to see the results bro
Apparently it works and I’m excited to. I enjoy the benefits of caber but if b6 can do the same with less sides and 0 sex boost I’ll take it. Hyper sex drive can be a huge problem in a blast especially with test, Tren and caber involved.
I always run b6 with all my tren cycles and always had caber onhand but never needed.
This is interesting. I'm about a week and a half into my first npp run. I'll be pulling bloods in a week or 2 and checking prolactin. If it comes back elevated, maybe I'll give this a shot and retest. Seems like a good opportunity to test the theory.
That would be epic if you would test it out. 300mg split am/pm I think is what the study dosed it at. I’ll be trying it in a few weeks but won’t be running bloods intra blast
Absolutely. I'll give the study another good read. I just checked my log and bloodwork is gtg next week.
I'm a big fan of alternatives to meds. So I'll gladly have a go at this. And Ive got caber on hand should things not pan out.
For guys who only intermittently sprinkle a little caber in here and there this could be a real game changer. Would be nice to ditch the stuff for good but I get a flare up a few times a year that it helps with. I may join you on this little experiment during my next run using deca as a base.
I’d be keen to hear about your results.
It would definitely be nice to ditch caber as it can really fuck you over.
That would be the swap of the century! +s
Nice find man!!!
Thanks bro, it’s been around a while but I haven’t seen much information on it. I’ll run it in a couple of weeks and update, EC is going to throw up some bloods which will be brilliant to follow
Noiccceee! Hadn't heard of it.
I will be watching in earnest!
I like to supp with caber from time to time for the sex benefits. But switching to a vit would be sweet.
This might be one of those game changer threads!
Not going to lie I enjoy those benefits also but they can become too much on a blast from time to time! Hopefully b6 can do that job and I’ll add a little proviron if things need a tickle.
Molinin302Its the route I go, never ran tren but ill use it for my nandralone runs. I'm conservative with my dosages so when I start feeling weird or the nipples act up, 300mg seems to do the trick for me. This is good info to post, please update down the line after you get moving.
How long still the sides disappear for you once you start 300mg?
Once I get my blood results I’ll start on a Tren blast and on week 5/6 start 300mg of b6, hoping to avoid that weird feeling high prolactin gives.
Molinin302B6 is pretty fast acting and water soluable, I get relief within a couple days. Im sure like anything else its dose related, I've read of people using 600mg, but i found no need for that. Nipple issues are the tell tale for me, it disappears pretty quick. Im confident youll be pretty happy with it. Theres concerns about toxicity in regards to the nervous system, but symptoms are pronounced and typically after months if not years of heavy usage. I only take it when needed.
Great info mate. Nipples are always my first indication that I need to add or adjust something - no homo.
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