posted Mon, 03/18/2013 - 03:47
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I've been in full research mode regarding running a specific PCT for sperm volume and motility. I found a couple cool links:
http://www.eje-online.org/content/138/3/286.full.pdf
http://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0014/ea0014P573.htm
Looks like I'm onto something here.
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Good luck going 3-5 days without busting a load. Some days I have a hard time going 3-5 hours Lol
AnonJesus bro ur telling me!!!
AnonBump
I aquired some liquid caber. Some people say it just does not work the same. Any suggestions would help.
have not used the liquid caber, since i have not used my tren i have either. waiting on some hcg...
AnonWell they say its not very stable in liquid. Also the real price of caber is extremely expensive. So if u paid less then 100$ for 30 doses its prolly fake.
I suggest looking in the pic section under labs and look for lab proven caber. Then to buy some from whichever source sold it to the member posting the labs.
Only thin Alittle scary about caber is the risk of heart valve problems ;(
Caber/Cabergoline/Dostinex/Cabaser
Caber will lower both progesterone and will inhibit prolactin/lactation. It?s a dopamine agonist means it wont allow your body to lactate since it will occupy your dopamine receptors which are responsible for lactation. Caber is the perfect prolactin support when running any 19nor imo since the side effects are minimal, no drowsiness, doest affect sleeping patterns and in general as far as dosing goes is far more flexible than pramipexole or bromo. Also there is no withdrawal when ceasing use of caber like with pramipexole
Caber is a recognized ed med, it reduces downtime (not to be confused with multiple orgasm) so if you need 24h recovery between sessions two weeks after taking caber you will see a significant decrease in downtime you will need 12-16h to be ready for the next session, if you need 2h you will need 1h with caber etc
Also its known for the multiple orgasm effect, so when you ejaculate you will feel as if you are releasing two or three loads at the same time. This needs some input for the user though its not instant, the more you hold it in the more orgasms you will have in the end. Also without caber say you are having sex and you let some cum slip through you got a big chance to loose your hardon, with caber even if you let quite a bit slip through your hardon will become stronger and stronger and your climax will be insane. In this sense you can actually have 4-5 small orgasms coupled with a huge orgasm in the end that will feel as two more orgasms put together. Again it needs practice and self control from the user
Common dose on cycle: 0.25-0.50mg e3d
Common does to stop lactation: 1-1.5mg e3-5d
I have to agree. Instead of the multiple orgasms that I was told I would get, I've experienced PROLONGED orgasms. Very interesting to say the least. I'm talking long drawn out ones. And I don't get that "I'm done" feeling. It literally takes a few minutes to be horny all over again. I've also noticed that I am ultra sensitive on this stuff. I mean even the lightest touch (like taking a piss) and I'm leaking and ready to go! It's insane. I have found that when combined with Cialis and proviron , I'm ready to play the staring role in "Big Booty White girls part 143". Lol. Caber is a definite benefit in the bedroom. By far the best sex drug I've ever used. The fact that I can safely use a 19-nor without fear of sides is just a benefit. :-)
GearofWarWere these benefits realized immediately after first dose or was it after a cumulative build-up of dosing? Also, how many MG's and how frequent? Sorry for all of the stupid questions.
I'm taking 0.25mg e3d. I realized it after the second dose. But it has gradually gotten better and better. Unless I'm just harnessing my new sound talents. :-)
GearofWarPerhaps...I'm sure it's not working as well for me because my dopamine receptors are totally FUBAR from years of hard drug use and my current Suboxone protocol. I'll see if I can reap any benefit from continued use. To be honest Im also testing a theory, using Caber to enhance L-Dopa levels to enable the use of LESS Suboxone on a rapid taper whilst minimizing WD symptoms. I'm praying...If this works out I could be onto something huge for all of the peeps out there attempting to kick their Bupe programs. That's why I'm varying dosing amounts and frequencies-to see if any of it makes any difference. Using myself as a human guinea pig as always..
Very interesting.
GearofWarThe good so far is that it actually seems to at least delay the onset time of early WD symptoms such as excessive yawning, and runny nose. I'm not quite sure how deep into withdrawal I'm ready to travel to see how it fares with the more advanced stages of WD's such as RLS, diarrhea, insomnia, chills, hot flashes m, and night sweats. I hate being on bupe but it surely saved my hide from a far worse fate than a medically supervised addiction. I would really love to try this study under the care of a trained physician so bloods, etc could be monitored throughout and relevant data collected and logged. I was thinking of creating a new topic in the General section of the forums regarding this hair brained scheme of mine to gather intelligence from some of the more medically and scientifically inclined members. Whatcha guys think?
**Sorry to the OP for the thread jack brother.
AnonMake the thread brother. U didnt jack shit home slice. The more eyes that see the studies the better. The whole point of these forums is to open the eyes n minds of those who visit our site.
AnonThis is exactly what happens to me. It's only happened a handful of times and twice this cycle. Love the idea of practice makes perfect!
X2! Getting plenty of practice.
CABERGOLINE ONCE YOU GO CAB YOU NEVER GO BACK!, ONE TIME AND YOU WILL KNOW DOSTINEX!!!!!
GearofWarWhat's this stuff supposed to do for you? I've been excited beyond belief to finally get my hands on some and I finally did. Dosed my first half tab Friday afternoon. Nothing. No increased sex drive. If anything it made me a bit more depressed. Unless I got bunk Cabaser. Don't think so though. This bottle was super legit, and the source is supposedly solid. What do you think? I'm disappointed bros.
I got depressed after my first dose of 0.5mg. A week later I gave it a go but at 0.25mg and it wasn't that bad. I'm not really consistent with my dosages because I'm not experiencing prolactin sides from this tren cycle.
GearofWarI'll have to try it a few more times and tinker with dosages. Thanks for the real world input, brutha.
Yeah so I'm kinda in the same boat at you. I didn't experience any magical libido boost either lol. Guess everyone has diff reactions. What are you running? Tren or deca?
AnonIt's definitely not going to do much after a single dose if anything at all. In short Caber is an ancillary used on 19nor cycles like A nandrolone or trenbolone cycle. It lowers prolactin or regulates it if taken early enough. The outcome is dependent on the dosage.
It has some sexual health benefits as well as u can see from the studies linked above. User testimonials have shown libido and increased orgasms and at times multiple orgasms. Now that also is dose dependent. U probably won't see those sort of things on a preventative dose of .25mg 2x a week. We're talking .5mg minimum which was the dose used in one of the studies above. As u increase the dose u not only increase the odds of the sexual benefits but u also increase the risk of the bad sides as well.
As it is a prescribed medication I suggest u use the lower safest dosages and not risk ur health just for a Peter north cumshot.
GearofWarI was using Deca and I thought I had prolactin related sides then but I didn't have the caber then. To be truthful I'm using the caber to battle opiate potentiated prolactin. See I'm on a Suboxone program and from all my studying opiates, especially Bupe can and typically DO raise prolactin levels and lower sex drive. My sex drive was in the shitter before TRT and its still not amazing on 800mg of test either. I believe it's due to bupe causing excess prolactin. So bump up my dosing and see how it goes? I'm not afraid of sides. I'm an ex-junky who's almost overdosed on multiple occasions and I also don't have a fear of injecting unknown foreign substances or eating handfuls of pills that aren't mine, not knowing what the interactions are. I'm not proud, and im not bragging either, but sides I can handle to a certain extent so long as I can benefit in some way.
AnonYeah but the sides from too much caber are not like ODing, it causes permanant heart valve damage.
Why are you using the deca ? Are you using it for pain ?
GearofWarI WAS using Deca for joint pain indeed sir. 200mg/wk in conjunction with fish oil, and glucosamine-chondroitin. Killed the Deca because joints were feeling good, and the other meds seem to work pretty decently for joint support. Plus, as previously stated adding a 19 nor on top of the Bupe was asking for big prolactin problems I think. That was before I found some legit Caber.
AnonThank u Novi.
RustyhookerShhhhh! Don't gotta scream. We believe ya. Lol
AnonHave you had your sperm tested for quantity and "swimabillity" as you are now to compare ??
AnonI did a few yrs ago and it was next to nothing for both. Mind u I was already on trt for over a year. I am most likely going to a urologist pretty soon here and begin getting tested. I fucking hate it tho. Jacking off into some fucking cup like a freak. But gotta do what I gotta do
lol... give the cup a like girls name "cheryl" maybe!.. and let that vein rip...........lmfao!!!!!!
AnonAhahahaha that's a great idea. I was even thinking I'd go buy the wife some new purses as a bribe to hold the cup in her mouth for me!!
Oooooooh..... Naaaaazzty.... "but i like it!"
AnonLmfao!! Missed u Vike. I sent u a fr please accept
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Good post bro.definitely shows when running tren that caber would be an excellent choice to reduce prolactin. +1
Keep this up
AnonWow thanks man. I'm a trt guy just looking for a puppie before I go to look for medical help. My endo was a waste of time and I'm scheduled to go to a urologist but I'm nervous to be honest about my AAS use. Honestly I'd like to see if a real pct for sperm volume n motility is possible. I've seen some stuff that's suggest there are protocols out there.
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