posted Thu, 01/30/2014 - 17:09
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+ 1 Test, Sust 350, Deca & EQ cycle (for spring ebc)
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age 27
Height 5'9
Weight 190lbs
BF 18%
Looking for lean mass using both Test E and Sustanon Deca and EQ with Var and Halo at the beginning and Winny at the end. Aromasin will be used throughout cycle at 12.5mg eod (change if needed never had to) and through pct drop it by half to 6.25 half way through pct. Arimidex will also be on hand as will HCG but I'm not gonna use it unless I get sluggish and if that happens I will use 250iu twice a week standard protocol. I read on another forum that combining Halo with Var has a thermogenic response this is where I would like some input. This cycle is nowhere near ready to be used it will be for the Spring EBC here on Eroids. I don't even have everything for it yet.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Deca | EQ | Sust 350 | Halo | Var | Winstrol | Clomid | Nolvadex |
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| 1 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 30mg | 70mg | ||||
| 2 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 30mg | 70mg | ||||
| 3 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 30mg | 70mg | ||||
| 4 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 30mg | 70mg | ||||
| 5 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 30mg | 70mg | ||||
| 6 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 70mg | |||||
| 7 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 70mg | |||||
| 8 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | 70mg | |||||
| 9 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | ||||||
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| 11 | 600mg | 300mg | 1200mg | ||||||
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| 20 | 600mg | 1200mg | |||||||
| 21 | 700mg | ||||||||
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| 23 | 700mg | 100mg | |||||||
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| 34 | 100 | 40 | |||||||
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AnonCheck my revised cycle please I resubmitted it
TONYPERKIS30mgs of Halo is pretty high IMO. I almost lose it after a taking 20mgs lol i love that shit but it def will make u angry so dont kid yourself..everyone knows u will gain aggressiveness from it but it wont be just in gym. goodluck in traffic or with a significant other
damn Jk that's pretty hardcore brotha
Alright so are you going to go on with this cycle or did you want to clean it up a little? First what are your goals? You say you want to cut, but you want to add mass with deca and EQ.
So I'm pretty sure you know it's best to focus on one thing at a time, cut, bulk or leanbulk. But combining it all into one cycle is not as efficient.
You are a pretty big dude 22 inch arms I'd say you have a good amount of size. Maybe consider cutting? Or a lean bulk? Well first things first DIET needs to be set up to determine a cut or bulk. Focus your diet towards your goals THEN choose a cycle that would supplement your goals of cutting.
Steroids like EQ will increase appetite, so if you want to do a lean bulk are you sure you can stay on track with your diet? Deca is a good steroid for bulking also, you could use it but I don't think that's the right steroid for your goals. Next is orals, dude you have too many orals and worst of all you pick highly toxic ones and stack them!! NOOOO winny is horrible on your cholesterol so is anavar in high doses. I won't comment on the toxicity of halo I'm sure you already know.
I know this is against the grain but in all honesty I think either a test/hgh or test + tren cycle would be perfect for your goals. Keep it low dose like 500mg tren E + 250mg test E. That's it. You can get amazing results with just those 2 steroids, you won't have a raging appetite like you would with EQ, and you won't bloat like you would with deca. And with tren there's no need for orals because it's powerful enough as is. But I'm just trying to help you out man I honestly think if you stuck to 2 compounds and kept it low dose you can get the desired results without stuffing 20ml's of oils in your body each week and stacks of orals. Save your body man quit running stack orals that's not healthy it puts stress on your liver, makes your kidneys work harder and it makes your cholesterol at unhealthy levels especially winstrol.
That's just my opinion I don't think you need a monster 30 week cycle with multiple compounds just pick a basic cycle and stick with it.
AnonThank you for the advice! One thing I've noticed with Deca doesn't matter the dose I always cut a lot of body fat even at 500mg per week I drop weight. I have actually decided to drop the EQ dose to 900mg per week simply for an easier injection schedule. Now I have learned that I cut very well on both compounds so I thought to myself what would happen if I combined them? 300mg per week of Deca isn't a lot in fact that is the dose you'd want to use if you're cutting which I will be and I always lean out when I use any kind of Sustsnon which it's why it is my favorite testosterone compound. I do see your point but I've always had my
Liver and electrolyte functions tested every two weeks am my liver has never spiked. I have taken your advice to cut the Halo from the cycle and stick with 50mg per day of Var and lower the Winny at the end to 50mg per day as well. Thank you for taking the time to critique and give advice I have taken all into consideration
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkGreat info and advice.
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AnonThe next one is a cutting cycle
Hey man. If I do the EBC can we make this a challenge? Your cycle vs mine? I'm only doing Test/Var. You up for it?
AnonYes I'm absolutely up for a challenge send me a F/R and pm me and well discuss it
AnonCan i get in on this to. Test and tren for now guys.
Hell ya man, see who can produce the best results with there cycles. His insane cycle, your moderate cycle and my simple cycle. Sounds like a plan
hunteron20sCan I get in on that as well lol
More and more gear every time I look at your ridiculous cycles. Considering what you believe is sensible to pump into yourself I worry when I see you giving others advice.
SDM is spot on.. +1.. he has spent some time on Eroids and appears not to have learned a lot..
More is less... training and diet come 1st... the JU-ice is to compliment the hardwork..
Well I believe the next EBC will likely be a cutter, if not then possibly another recomp.
This cycle looks out of control.
8 Compounds????????
I wouldnt stack Halo and Var. Halo is known to be toxic enough on its own.
if you want "lean gains" I would rethink using EQ. That stuff will make you eat the ass out of a skunk.
Unsure why you want to use both sust and enth?
30wks?
I'd scrap this whole idea and start from scratch. Maybe choose to do a cutter and stick to a couple compounds in moderate doses and let the food and training dictate the results.
Not sure what your plans are with this cycle bro but its over complicated. AND you are gonna do a 30 week cycle? Thats going to be a HARD shutdown considering the SUS will take another 2-3 weeks to be completely out putting you at 33 week danger zone. Lean mass would be EQ and Sus dropping the Deca and the Test E, If you go with Tbol do 70mg a day for 5 weeks vs 6. Tbol has a 16.5 hour half life so split up the doses. Doing those 3 components and stricting up your diet; you will get some great lean mass.
AnonWhy Tbol how does that compound fit into a cut cycle can you elaborate? And look at my
Pics look at my EBC how far I've come I'm down to 17% body fat yes I made a lot of mistakes and was easily at 24-25% bf that was my error in judgement I Di take J223s advice dropped the Halo and lowered the var and Winny doses
Tbol is a very mild androgenic but strength and lean mass gains are pretty easy. Plus Tbol is not a liver killer unless you go over 90mg a day which you wont need to anyways. Do a google on it, you might try it and fall in love. At the height of my last cycle using tbol as a finisher, I added about 5 pounds to my 1RM every week for 5 weeks. Might not be a lot to some but I was only working out for 30 minutes a day 4 days a week.
AnonI gave you a +1 for THOROUGHLY answering my question and going into the detail you did I just did some more reading on it and it is something I'm greatly considering
You are going to love the strength gains, trust me.
I agree completely with the EQ & Sust recommendation. I recently ran the following cycle with great results (which ironically, you commented on):
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust-...
I took Viking's advise and ran the Sust M, W, F and stacked 300mg EQ with each injection. It was my best EQ run to date and I've run it several times. Since your bf is relatively high at 18%, I'd skip the var. If you're set on using an oral, I like gryst72's Tbol recommendation. I normally use it as a kickstart but I know others that used it as a finisher with great results too, very little to no bloat if diet is on point.
I'm not going to reiterate what others have said but please take what others have suggested. They've given you great advice and they all have your safety in mind. Good luck!
At his bf I think EQ might make it difficult to stay "lean". The orals in the cycle is excessive and unnecessary. I think he should decrease the length of the cycle by about 10 weeks and drop half the compounds overall it just looks poorly thought out and too much
I can't really comment on the EQ though but the rest is a little overkill.
I too mean no disrespect, but at 18% body fat you should be more focused on a diet plan than a cycle running all that gear won't mean anything if you don't have a proper diet. I'm not trying to be an ass hole or anything, but at 18% you don't have your diet in check. Your diet will determine your gains or weight loss, not how many different compounds your running..
Why are you stacking halo and var 2 very highly toxic compounds.
AnonI heard they make injectable halo I've been trying to get my hands on sum because I love the gym.room aggression and power you get from it. I'm not the most knowledgeable dude but I guarantee the guys on here know what they speak of from experiences. Right on bro!
agreed, and also winny at the end for some extra liver punishment and some havoc on the lipids.
No disrespect meant here, but this seems like overkill to me. 30 week cycle, with a total of 7 different compounds, with overlapping orals and running them up to 8 weeks. I just feel you could get where you want to go with less and with less toxic effects to your body. Have you run similar cycles in the past? What were the results? Why have you chosen this length of cycle as well?
bigKountryAs far as combining the var and halo I have no experience with that and would have to research that myself as well, I do like the Test,Deca, Equipoise combo,have you thought of maybe Turnibal instead of the combo of halo and var and then like the follow up of the winstrol for sure,my experience is limited with the halo and sust so don't want to mislead you on those.
AnonI love Sustanon always seem to get incredible strength and drop weight like a hot potato while on it so that's why I have it at the end with the Winny. I have never tried Tbol and wouldn't know how to add or substitute it for this cycle. I figured I would give the Halo/Var combo a try since they are both cutting orals. I also figured the low dose Deca will help me cut as well and also help with joints and make work outs more productive. Thanks for your input bro! Get back to me on how you would use or substitute the Tbol in this cycle and why it would be better since I don't know too much about it.
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