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+ 1 Test, Sust 350, Deca & EQ cycle (for spring ebc)

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Age 27
Height 5'9
Weight 190lbs
BF 18%

Looking for lean mass using both Test E and Sustanon Deca and EQ with Var and Halo at the beginning and Winny at the end. Aromasin will be used throughout cycle at 12.5mg eod (change if needed never had to) and through pct drop it by half to 6.25 half way through pct. Arimidex will also be on hand as will HCG but I'm not gonna use it unless I get sluggish and if that happens I will use 250iu twice a week standard protocol. I read on another forum that combining Halo with Var has a thermogenic response this is where I would like some input. This cycle is nowhere near ready to be used it will be for the Spring EBC here on Eroids. I don't even have everything for it yet.

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SL's picture

damn Jk that's pretty hardcore brotha

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j223's picture

Alright so are you going to go on with this cycle or did you want to clean it up a little? First what are your goals? You say you want to cut, but you want to add mass with deca and EQ.

So I'm pretty sure you know it's best to focus on one thing at a time, cut, bulk or leanbulk. But combining it all into one cycle is not as efficient.
You are a pretty big dude 22 inch arms I'd say you have a good amount of size. Maybe consider cutting? Or a lean bulk? Well first things first DIET needs to be set up to determine a cut or bulk. Focus your diet towards your goals THEN choose a cycle that would supplement your goals of cutting.
Steroids like EQ will increase appetite, so if you want to do a lean bulk are you sure you can stay on track with your diet? Deca is a good steroid for bulking also, you could use it but I don't think that's the right steroid for your goals. Next is orals, dude you have too many orals and worst of all you pick highly toxic ones and stack them!! NOOOO winny is horrible on your cholesterol so is anavar in high doses. I won't comment on the toxicity of halo I'm sure you already know.
I know this is against the grain but in all honesty I think either a test/hgh or test + tren cycle would be perfect for your goals. Keep it low dose like 500mg tren E + 250mg test E. That's it. You can get amazing results with just those 2 steroids, you won't have a raging appetite like you would with EQ, and you won't bloat like you would with deca. And with tren there's no need for orals because it's powerful enough as is. But I'm just trying to help you out man I honestly think if you stuck to 2 compounds and kept it low dose you can get the desired results without stuffing 20ml's of oils in your body each week and stacks of orals. Save your body man quit running stack orals that's not healthy it puts stress on your liver, makes your kidneys work harder and it makes your cholesterol at unhealthy levels especially winstrol.

That's just my opinion I don't think you need a monster 30 week cycle with multiple compounds just pick a basic cycle and stick with it.

vhman's picture

Great info and advice.

+1

baha's picture

Hey man. If I do the EBC can we make this a challenge? Your cycle vs mine? I'm only doing Test/Var. You up for it?

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baha's picture

Hell ya man, see who can produce the best results with there cycles. His insane cycle, your moderate cycle and my simple cycle. Sounds like a plan Smile

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Catalyst's picture

More and more gear every time I look at your ridiculous cycles. Considering what you believe is sensible to pump into yourself I worry when I see you giving others advice.

SwaySway's picture

SDM is spot on.. +1.. he has spent some time on Eroids and appears not to have learned a lot..

More is less... training and diet come 1st... the JU-ice is to compliment the hardwork..

GRIMEY's picture

Well I believe the next EBC will likely be a cutter, if not then possibly another recomp.

This cycle looks out of control.
8 Compounds????????

  • I wouldnt stack Halo and Var. Halo is known to be toxic enough on its own.

  • if you want "lean gains" I would rethink using EQ. That stuff will make you eat the ass out of a skunk.

  • Unsure why you want to use both sust and enth?

  • 30wks?

  • I'd scrap this whole idea and start from scratch. Maybe choose to do a cutter and stick to a couple compounds in moderate doses and let the food and training dictate the results.

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IrishMack's picture

Not sure what your plans are with this cycle bro but its over complicated. AND you are gonna do a 30 week cycle? Thats going to be a HARD shutdown considering the SUS will take another 2-3 weeks to be completely out putting you at 33 week danger zone. Lean mass would be EQ and Sus dropping the Deca and the Test E, If you go with Tbol do 70mg a day for 5 weeks vs 6. Tbol has a 16.5 hour half life so split up the doses. Doing those 3 components and stricting up your diet; you will get some great lean mass.

IrishMack's picture

Tbol is a very mild androgenic but strength and lean mass gains are pretty easy. Plus Tbol is not a liver killer unless you go over 90mg a day which you wont need to anyways. Do a google on it, you might try it and fall in love. At the height of my last cycle using tbol as a finisher, I added about 5 pounds to my 1RM every week for 5 weeks. Might not be a lot to some but I was only working out for 30 minutes a day 4 days a week.

IrishMack's picture

You are going to love the strength gains, trust me.

dbombs's picture

I agree completely with the EQ & Sust recommendation. I recently ran the following cycle with great results (which ironically, you commented on):
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust-...

I took Viking's advise and ran the Sust M, W, F and stacked 300mg EQ with each injection. It was my best EQ run to date and I've run it several times. Since your bf is relatively high at 18%, I'd skip the var. If you're set on using an oral, I like gryst72's Tbol recommendation. I normally use it as a kickstart but I know others that used it as a finisher with great results too, very little to no bloat if diet is on point.

I'm not going to reiterate what others have said but please take what others have suggested. They've given you great advice and they all have your safety in mind. Good luck!

j223's picture

At his bf I think EQ might make it difficult to stay "lean". The orals in the cycle is excessive and unnecessary. I think he should decrease the length of the cycle by about 10 weeks and drop half the compounds overall it just looks poorly thought out and too much

IrishMack's picture

I can't really comment on the EQ though but the rest is a little overkill.

coronalight's picture

I too mean no disrespect, but at 18% body fat you should be more focused on a diet plan than a cycle running all that gear won't mean anything if you don't have a proper diet. I'm not trying to be an ass hole or anything, but at 18% you don't have your diet in check. Your diet will determine your gains or weight loss, not how many different compounds your running..

j223's picture

Why are you stacking halo and var 2 very highly toxic compounds.

GRIMEY's picture

agreed, and also winny at the end for some extra liver punishment and some havoc on the lipids.

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vhman's picture

No disrespect meant here, but this seems like overkill to me. 30 week cycle, with a total of 7 different compounds, with overlapping orals and running them up to 8 weeks. I just feel you could get where you want to go with less and with less toxic effects to your body. Have you run similar cycles in the past? What were the results? Why have you chosen this length of cycle as well?