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Test E//Mast E//Winny Cut Cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

I'm putting this up here for any critiques as I'm not going to be running this yet until about April/May, but definitely need some critiques as I want this cycle to be perfect. Decided to go with the long esthers. It's cheaper and it keeps the pin schedule to a minimum. I have adex on hand for any gyno issues, but I'm hoping I can keep it's use to a minimum.

6'1"
245lbs
26y/o
15%bf
6th cycle

UPDATE - Pictures that are uploaded were taken (2/1/2014). I clearly have some bf%'s to drop, but would like to keep the width if at all possible ;)

My PCT is completely open to more input. I ran Nolva my last cycle (prop/winny), and I felt pretty miserable. I'm going to do Clomid and Toremifene. I tolerate Clomid well so no problem there.

WeekTest EMast EWinnyClomid
1625
2625
3625500
4625500
5625500
6625500
762550050
862550050
962550050
1062550050
1162550
1262550
13
14100first day/50mg
1550
1650
1725
PRE CYCLE PIC: 
aolmember's picture

Just revised my outline.

baha's picture

Holy shit. What are you thinking man, you think more gear means less work? I'm afraid not. I bet if you did a test and var or winny or tbol. Had a nice diet, do cardio maybe 2 times a week 30 min and worked your ass off, you could see better results from that hard work then that extra gear being wasted

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aolmember's picture

This is completely true. However, my reasoning for compounds was stated in earlier comments to other e-roider. If you can find reasons why my logic is flawed in why I'm running the compounds in their quantities, please state so, but just balking at my cycle layout isn't helping much.

baha's picture

Its not why your running the compounds I am shocked with how many compounds, I believe less gear and more hard work you will yield better results. My future cut cycle will be Maybe 2 compounds, Test and Something else I haven't decided yet.

Hard Work Beats More Gear

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HllwdBdBoy's picture

I've done a test p/var cycle every summer for the last 3 yrs and its my favorite cycle

aolmember's picture

Perhaps ill run something like this instead.

baha's picture

There you go Smile
Nice and simple but still very effective

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aolmember's picture

How about adding mast in there? I have to take an AI for sure if I'm running test (prob a frontload just to be safe), so would it be beneficial to just swap adex out for mast? This is a cutting cycle so the hardness achieved by mast would be suitable.

baha's picture

Mast is not strictly for AI, sure it contributes to it but it is not going to fully control your estro. You can add mast to it, mast p would be more appropriate because its faster acting. It will help you get a dryness affect you want at 100-150mg eod would be fine and give you what you want. You still need Adex on hand, never ever do a cycle without a AI on hand.

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aolmember's picture

I would never run a cycle without an AI. This will be my 6th cycle, so I'm well adjusted to what to be prepared for. Thanks for the feedback though. I'm pretty excited to try out mast. I hate losing the softness associated with cutting, but this cycle should alleviate any of that.

baha's picture

Hope all goes great for you brotha! Keep us updated on how it goes

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aolmember's picture

I for sure will.

baha's picture

And I bet you shred up nicely, I was also thinking var at 50mg ed. I see no point in running high amounts of gear. People are too lazy anymore and depend on gear to make up there slack. SMH

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aolmember's picture

What about hard work plus more gear? That probably yields good results too.

finafan's picture

There is a diminishing return when it comes to gear.It really does not make since to load your body with gear you do not need. Save your money and spend it when the bigger cycle is required. This will not only help you save cash but you will have a healthier life. Getting greedy and rushing thing is a fast track to the grave. I know guys that ran 300-600 mg test E a week for their 1st 5 cycles. These guys are huge. Never under estimate the Test only cycle.

aolmember's picture

I may go the prop n oral cycle. I appreciate the feedback.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Jeez bro, go straight test and 2500 cals a day... Just your cycle format alone screams NOT READY FOR THIS CYCLE

aolmember's picture

Please explain cycle format issues.

IrishMack's picture

its amazing to me ppl put up cutting cycles and its so many compounds. what happened to good old fashioned 1 compound cutters?

aolmember's picture

Like Just test? Don't let the dual esthers throw you off lol.

IrishMack's picture

im on one esther and I lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks without changing my diet and doing nothing different besides adding more squats to my routine. I also see quite the cuts coming in. 1 compound.

aolmember's picture

Nice. That's some pretty good results thus far. I could build a campfire by hand too but why do that when you have a lighter?

IrishMack's picture

haha touche my friend. why introduce leeches to a pin prick party?

aolmember's picture

Now you get my drift hahah

IrishMack's picture

basically you can cut or even lean out with the simplest cycles and even 1 compound

aolmember's picture

Of course. I'm not opposed to keeping it simple. but the recomping you can do on this kind of cycle will fare a lot better than just running one compound. Also, this cycle is basically revolving around tren. If I could just run tren without the deleterious effects of being a standalone, that'd be great. But we all know that's not the case, so I'm essentially running the test at a presumable high TRT dose so I don't turn asexual. My mast is in there because I'm very gyno prone and if I'm going to take something that is in the likes of an AI, why not have it be an AAS that primes the compounds you're running anyway?