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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Current Stats:
Age: 44
Height: 5'5"
Weight : 185lbs
BF: 7.5%

Cycle history:
This will be my 5th cycle. I am also on Dr. Prescribed TRT (Axiron)
1st: basic test e
2nd: test e/1-TC
3rd: Test e/EQ
4th: Comp prep cycle

Diet:
This is the bulking protocol that I willl be following

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/i-know-my-tdee%E2%80%A...

Training:
I incorporate progressive overload in all of my training. This progressive overload correlates with my diet. The calories get bumped up each week and my training intensity also increases to go along with increase in calories. Routines are switched up on a monthly basis when I reset my diets TDEE. These are examples of the types of workouts I will be doing. Take not of how the progressive overload is implemented in these month long training routines.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/pa...

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/ge...

Goal:
The main goal for this cycle is to put on 15lbs of lean body mass. This additional weight will put my at the top end of my weight class for my next competition. Lofty goal at this stage of my development but If I can get close to that I will be happy. I will still have a few months after this cycle ends to put on some additional before I have to start prepping for the show.

The cycle and Concerns:
Trying to keep this cycle basic and really focus on diet and training.
The cycle will consist of Organon Sustanon 250mg every M/W/F. This is the highest amount of test that I have ran so AI dosage is a concern, espcially with the dbol (first time using dbol). 0.25mg of adex E3D is my sweet spot with 500mg of test but with the additional test this run (with it also being pharma grade) along with the dbol I am going to bump it up to 0.5mg. Will be running pharma AI. This is my first time using dbol so I'll be starting the dbol at 30mg/d. If the sides get out of hand with the dbol (bloat, crippling pumps, etc. it is getting dropped). It may seem strange that the provi is added in only for the last half of cycle. This is my first time running pharma gear so I wanted to see what the effects are of just that by itself. The provi will be added in later to see if I notice anything different with it. TRT will be resumed when cycle is over.

WeekSustanonadrolarimadexProvironDeca
1750mg30mg Dbol0.25mg EOD
2750mg30mg Dbol0.25mg EOD
3750mg50mg0.25mg EOD180mg
4750mg50mg0.25mg EOD180mg
5750mg0.5mg EOD180mg
6750mg0.5mg EOD180mg
7750mg50mg0.5mg EOD180mg
8750mg50mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
9750mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
10750mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
11750mg50mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
12750mg50mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
13750mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
14750mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
15750mg50mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
16750mg50mg0.5mg EOD40mg/d180mg
Carlos Danger's picture

Test dbol aka "my old friend" haha. You'll like the drug Mak. It's got some kind of chemistry in there that makes your brain happy. Haha I sound a lil retarded there but Sir trust me you'll catch it out of nowhere and think to yourself " damn I feel great". Trust me 30mg is enough to grow. I can't take much more than that without looking like I've been on 6months of prednisone. Moon face city.
Mwf has always been a staple program schedule for me. Tho lately I've incorporated low dose Test Undec as a base during my last two Sust runs to assure blood plasma is stable.
I saw you mention if it would be worth it to stage one of your oral dosages around workouts. I say do it. If it doesn't compromise your schedule then why not.
Looks good Mak

TheFlash85's picture

not retarded at all bro, its dopamine trickling lol its the same as what gets released when you orgasm or eat some chocolate, sense of well being, rewarding feeling after pump, i find when i leave the gym with a dbol pump i see my reflection in the window of car i get a big smile and feel awesome about myself lol (whos retarded again? lol)

Carlos Danger's picture

The best part is there is absolutely no aggression byproduct of the drug outside of intensity in the gym. It's one of the only drugs that makes me nicer

Makwa's picture

Looking forward to a feel good cycle again. My last cycle was brutal, but I think alot of that had to do with the low carb diet. It is going to be a fun ride to bulk again and try and get huge (in a good way). I am definitely trying to avoid the moon face. So hopefully I can control that with my AI and keeping the dbol lower. The test undec is an interesting concept, maybe I'll incorporate it next time I run a sustanon bulker. Are you running the test U at TRT dose?

Carlos Danger's picture

I run sust a little higher than average 1g normally. So I stuck with 1cc a week of the nebido. It's a small batch of some Nebido I got my hands I'm pretty sure it's 250mg/ml
I tried the eod injections of Sust but I just like mwf. I've been doing it so long and run that set up every long ester run. Catalyst turned me onto running test Cyp along side Sust but last stack I ran out of cup and decided to try the nebido(test undec) and it's so smooth and zero pip I stuck with it. Unknowingly it turns out test undec has some of the most smooth plasma readings of all test esters

Edit:I fat thumbed myself there unintentional. Maybe a mod can clean that for me. Fucking phone

Gymjunkie01's picture

I see nothing wrong with this cycle ... sust is a great bulker your dbol is dosage is good but you may wanna try the last week and a half bumping to 50mg your choice see how your responding.. but overall very sold simple cycle +2

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Makwa's picture

I may bump it up a little the last week if I'm not getting moon face with 30mg.

konig's picture

This will be a great cycle.. I think you will achieve the muscle you are looking for out of this cycle especially with your level of discipline.. +1

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

Good call keeping the dbol low.
I never see a reason to max the dose for the whole time.
Matter of fact I'm a big fan of taking a short life. Oral like dbol every 8 hours. Taking ten mg 3x a day would be what I would like to do. And perhaps the 3rd week bump to 15mg 3x a day

750mg Sust the first time bumping it up there was wild for me. It was a night and day different than say 500.g test e

I think blended Ester hormones are always the way to go as the mimic the body natural hormone "waves" as a stable hormone level does not exist in nature, at least not like having a constant 500mg test e
I also like how you give time. For your liver. To recover before starting the provion
I argue against two oral mostly (although win var ten mg each is very interesting)
I would use a all most every other day, as the life of armies is 6 hours

All in all a well detailed and written cycle
and it should be starred for new members to be able to see what the time and patience of writing a good long entitles

Makwa's picture

That is my plan with the dbol. They are 10mg tabs so I figured 3 tabs spaced throughout the day. Is it worth timing one of those tabs PWO? Does it give you a little boost after taking it? The only oral I have used that has ever produced a PWO boost was halo. Just wondering if dbol would be like that also.

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

It's really about blood hormone level. The drug is like 6 hours or 8 off the top of my head(half life)
So to have a level playing field every 8 hours, or take it pretty workout and time after.
I have taken Oals before bed and I love it ll

So pre-workout, post workout... I really think it's similar effects are about the timing

Some would take 50 at once but then in half a day your back at zero or about that.
Taking like 15 every so odd hours or say it's 8 hours will give you the 15 mg plus the half life of about 7 so you have a stable blood of 20 mg for the whole 24 hours.

I actually ran a deca dbol cycle in 2000 zero yet and it was amazing. I took 5 mg every 3 hours and provided the dose over 13 weeks or so.

Obviously with the knowledge we have there is a testosterone base..... But dbol at low doses taken periodically will give you some great gains

I wish u a great cycle!

Justanotherguy's picture

Wow is this really only your 5th cycle?
I'm going to reference this often whenever somebody throws up a ridiculous cycle,

Best of luck, JAG

Whitetrash's picture

This cycle shows that you don't need everything and the kitchen sink to achieve results, just a few compounds and proper diet and training. Inspirational stuff my friend.

TheFlash85's picture

looks good too me mate, you might do better doing .25mgs of adex e2d instead, i noticed the bump from 500 to 750 did make a bit of a difference in estrogen, especially considering its sustanon and you will be pinning 3 times a week, the prop will be active quickly mixed with the dbol, you can easily adjust the dosage as needed but the half life of adex is 50 hours, and as stated its all pharma so keeping everything stable will be key.

Makwa's picture

Have you ran adex e2d like that, if so did you notice anything different vs E3D (assuming you have tried it both ways). Seems to make sense from a stability standpoint.

TheFlash85's picture

yes indeed bro, as stated below keeps any kind of moodiness down and also keeps estro at bay, when i was dosing e3d it was almost like the gyno was trying to come as in i would start getting itchy nips then i take my dose and it would go away then come back, when i changed to every 2nd day it was fine, this only happens to me with sust, i use letro most of the time now or aromasin, but with sust i noticed gyno was trying to form and was a little annoying like itching and tingling etc also prevented chest acne from getting worse.

Makwa's picture

I'll try dosing it .25mg E2d then and see how it goes.

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

I do.
Less mood swings.
Honestly some days I use about . 3 or. 4 eod
I tend to let my body speak to me