Need some help from the experienced!
I've been playing around with this for a few months now, and I've just tweaked it a bit and wanted some constructive criticism.
Stats:
Age: 32 years old
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 200 lbs.
BF%: 10%
I'd like to lose some fat while gaining quality lean muscle. I want to gain a little mass, but my main concentration will be to get more defined. My concern is to not lose my libido or my ability to have sex while on cycle or while doing my PCT. I'm getting this cycle ready for the end of the summer. I want to add Winstrol into this cycle, but I would like recommendations on how to do so. Should I run it throughout the cycle, or at the end only? Please help me with doses as well. I have an oil based geneza injectable whose concentration is 40mg/mL. And I bumped up the doses of the test and npp, please let me know if I've gone overboard with the doses. Thanks in advance!
Prior cycles:
1-Test E + anavar + proviron- 12 weeks. This was my first cycle. I got a lot of false information, it was pre-eroids. I learned a lot on what not to do, as well as what to do in regards to aas use. I also learned about how my body will react to these hormones. I did a proper PCT as I came to this site and was taught 'the standard pct'. I got decent results here, I just experienced estrogen issues. It was too low, or too high, and I caught some rebound.
2-Test enanthate 600mg/week. 12 weeks. This cycle went great for me. I used arimidex, and implemented hcg into the mix. Proper aromasin, clomid, nolvadex PCT. This was a positive cycle for me, and I consider it my first educated, and well thought out and prepared cycle.
3-Test E (600mg/wk), Masteron E (500mg/wk), with a Test prop kicker (100mg/EOD). I'm wrapping up this cycle now. This cycle has been amazing, and has truly transformed my body. What a great experience. I've implemented hcg, as well as aromasin in to the cycle. I had a few bumps in the road with estrogen (joint problems), but with some help from more experienced members I've conquered that and I now know what dose of aromasin my body responds well to. I will be starting PCT 2 weeks after final pin.
| Week | Test Prop | npp | Winstrol (oil based) | hcg | Cabergoline | arimidex | nolvadex | clomid | aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | ||||||
| 2 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | .25 mg eod | |||||
| 3 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 4 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 5 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 6 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 7 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 8 | 800mg | 600 mg | ? | 500 iu | .25mg e3d | .25 mg eod | |||
| 9 | .25mg e3d | 20mg/day | 100 mg/day | 12.5 mg/day | |||||
| 10 | .25mg e3d | 20mg/day | 100 mg/day | 12.5 mg/day | |||||
| 11 | .25mg e3d | 10mg/day | 50 mg/day | 6.25 mg/day | |||||
| 12 | .25mg e3d | 10mg/day | 50 mg/day | 6.25 mg/day | |||||
| 13 | |||||||||
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AnonAlso you need to run your test prop at least two weeks past your npp so you don't crash as hard during pct. You don't want everything leaving your system at once and yes I agree that is a tad overkill on the npp. i would run it at 100mg eod as suggested below and adjust accordingly and your Nolva should be 40/40/20/20
Ok ill change the nolva in pct as you suggested. So would you suggest I run the test to week 9 before starting pct. Ok. When I get on a computer ill edit it to 100 eod on the npp.
RustyhookerNpp half life 3.5 days. 1 week is sufficient.
AnonTechnically you are correct but as a rule of thumb I always run my test two weeks passed all other compounds used.
Number 3. Says you have had joint problems ? Have you ever tried DECA? Most guys are afraid of DECA? However I love it.
I feel like I've only had shoulder joint problems due to low estrogen while on cycle. That's what made me start to research deca and nandrolone. Later on I chose npp opposed to deca as I wanted to run a short ester cycle. I'm excited to try out the nandrolone phenyl prop.
RustyhookerNpp is short ester nandrolone. It'll lube joints.
Yes that's Y I was asking.
Might be a bit overboard on the npp to start I'd say to start at 100mg eod and work your way up...it's a short ester so your adjustment will be felt fast, better to find your threshold by workin to it than to exceed it and have to get yourself out I a jam imo
How would you implement the winstrol in this cycle?
Ok thanks! Ill do just that. Start out at 100mg eod and go from there.
RustyhookerYou need time on + pct = time off. Or you'll be a pct victim. 16Weeks off is end of July. If it was me, I'd not cycle again til you're ready for a winter bulker. Or you cut Aug/sept.....see what i mean?
I understand the concept. If you read above it says that this cycle will not start until the late/end of summer. I'm not trying to permanently fuckup my nutsack and natural sperm production, I hear you. I'm just looking for advice on the contents of the cycle itself.
RustyhookerHad to check. Many guys on here doing back to back cycles
Really? People are taking things to the extreme! I see that kind of action is pretty frowned upon here on eroids though. I don't want to have to be put on trt at this age. Maybe later on in my life, but not yet.
RustyhookerKeeping it safe and swole is the best route. Yes another cycle log i helped on dudeds light...3rd cycle and proposing 16 weeks tren plus everything made. smh. You'll do great...you're asking and learning