posted Wed, 08/12/2020 - 18:59
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I am trying to build a solid cycle with the goals of a 20lb dry bulk and significant strength gains. What I am struggling with is how long to actually run my different compounds within the cycle. So if you guys could help out with that, I’d appreciate it.
This will be cycle number 5, but the first in 3+ years. I have run Tren E once at 200mg for 10 weeks with Test E with no problems.
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196lbs
5’9”
11-14%
| Week | Turinabol | Test Prop | Mast Prop | Tren Ace | Test E | Mast E | Tren E | Arimidex | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | ||||||
| 2 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | ||||||
| 3 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | ||||||
| 4 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | ||||||
| 5 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | ||||||
| 6 | 25mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | |||||
| 7 | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | ||||||
| 8 | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | ||||||
| 9 | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | ||||||
| 10 | 200mg | 200mg | 100mg | 400mg | 400mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 11 | 300mg | 300mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | ||||||
| 12 | 450mg | 450mg | 200mg | 0.5mg | ||||||
| 13 | 0.5mg | 40mg | 100mg | |||||||
| 14 | 0.5mg | 40mg | 50mg | |||||||
| 15 | 20mg | 25mg | ||||||||
| 16 | 20mg | 25mg |
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why start the short esters before the long esters? Im actually genuinely interested. if theres a reason than thats awesome. im just curious
Just to get a kickstart
Exactly what keithkirby said. The short esters will be eliminated well before blood plasma levels from the long esters peak. Personally I would drop the short esters all together. I see what you're trying to do, but I think you're doing too much and poking too many damn holes. Short esters have a place. But I wouldn't suggest it here in your case.
As for An a.i I wouldn't take it unless it's needed. Wait 5 weeks, get some bloodwork. If estrogen it way out of range or problematic, then implement it. Estrogen is a good thing when trying to put on 20 lbs.
Also with your pct, you may want to wait till all exogenous aas are clear from the system to begin, from my understanding. Wait 2 or 3 weeks then start.
Cool man, Ill give them some thought. Would the short esters be better at the beginning or end?
Also IMHO you shouldn't start the Adex right away. Get Bloods after 5-6 weeks and dial in your dose based on the results. I personally can have my estrogen in the 80's and have no sides but it really helps me put on some size. Everybody is different though, that's why you need to get blood work done.
Bro IMHO I think you should listen to big chips and just save the short esters for another cycle since its been a while since you cycled and there's no need to over complicate it. However if you decide run the short ester s as well and you are deciding between the beginning and end of your cycle, I would recommend the end so you can taper off the AAS and have a smoother transition into PCT. SO, after you finish your long ester run the short ones for at least three weeks and then at the end of that wait three days to begin your PCT.
First off you need to start you Long esters the same time as your short esters. If you wait to start then ;omg esters until week three you will have a lag time where you short ones live your system before the longs one even begin to kick in. The whole point of a prop taper is a quick smooth transition.
Good call...
I highly doubt you’ll recover properly after a 15wk cycle of tren by taking Nolva and clomid for four weeks.
What should I ad?, I was worried about that too but never tried any other PCT.