posted Mon, 06/28/2021 - 10:50
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+ 4 Summer/Fall Recomp 2021 (Test, Eq and HGH)
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I’d like to gain 10-12lbs of quality, dry mass over a pretty long timeframe of 5 months. Aesthetically I would love to see some striations in the quad and delt. I’ve had steady strength gains with new PRs during my 4 previous cycles, so I expect the same here. This is my first time introducing HGH, so I am anxious to see how my body responds.
| Week/Product | Testosterone Cypionate | Equipoise | HGH | HCG | Arimidex | Anavar |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg | 600mg | 2IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 2 | 400mg | 600mg | 2IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 3 | 400mg | 600mg | 2IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 4 | 400mg | 600mg | 2IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 5 | 400mg | 600mg | 3IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 6 | 400mg | 600mg | 3IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 7 | 400mg | 600mg | 3IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 8 | 400mg | 600mg | 3IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 9 | 400mg | 600mg | 4IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 10 | 400mg | 600mg | 4IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 11 | 400mg | 600mg | 4IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 12 | 400mg | 600mg | 4IU | .5mg EOD | ||
| 13 | 400mg | 600mg | .5mg EOD | 50mg ED | ||
| 14 | 400mg | 600mg | .5mg EOD | 50mg ED | ||
| 15 | 400mg | 600mg | .5mg EOD | 50mg ED | ||
| 16 | 400mg | 600mg | .5mg EOD | 50mg ED | ||
| 17 | 150mg | 2500IU | .5mg EOD | |||
| 18 | 150mg | 2500IU | .5mg EOD | |||
| 19 | 150mg | 2500IU | .5mg EOD | |||
| 20 | 150mg | 2500IU | .5mg EOD |
PRE CYCLE PIC:
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6 weeks in, and I have to say, I am surprised by the length of time it has taken to see results…but that’s what y’all told me about EQ. Stats now are
199lbs
8-9% BF
Strength is slowly improving every week. I don’t know exactly how mush the GH is playing into it, but I look and feel great. Have not had too many days where I felt an AI has been necessary. Super fun cycle so far! Feel free to bring questions.
Oh, and have used maybe 2.5mg arimidex total, so good there. Thinking if about bumping the test up
Again, but that’s my trap that leads to water weight and sweating my balls off all the time. BP has stayed slightly elevated at 143/88, nothing to write home about.
I am a month deep now, and made a couple recommended tweeks. I had to bump the test to 500 for lack of anything test like (oily face, horny all the time) so I switched to a different brand, then results began. I’m probably single digits body fat for the first time in my life, strength is near when I was on mast/test/tren, and I’ve only gained a little weight so far…around 194. I LOOK different though, will post a pic. Second time I have been getting comments at the gym in my life. Stay tuned for bloods at the Halfway point of September 21.
Alright gentlemen, the hand has healed up nicely to where I am going to begin on Monday. I updated the log to show all the tweaks. I’m looking forward to this one!
Also, I have appointment for first bloods July 27 to get a week 1 baseline.
Bloodwork 1 week into cycle?
I had the appointment set before I hurt the finger, so it was going to be at the end of week 4. Decided to keep it anyway to see where I’m starting off.
I would hold off on starting your cycle until after your bloodwork is done. Not sure how much useful info you will get getting bloodwork 1 wk into cycle.. Not a true baseline since already started cycle and the test levels won't be anywhere near peak plasma levels so not very useful there either. Estro isn't going to be problem 1 wk into cycle either. I would just reschedule it.
RustyhookerIve done the 1200 frontload. Keep that taurine on hand thru the day. For me bout week 3 the backpumps kick in.
Im curious as to where the e2 will be around week 5 as eq has a small conversion to ai. For me...id be too dry but others might need ai. Gonna be a fun cycle. Will watch for bloods. And i wouldnt start ai til my forehead is crisco greasy. Lil oilly and horney af...gtg. High e2...sad, greasy, bleh, etc.
Hcg to puff balls back up as youre trt right?
My low eq run without ai is 450test/600eq but again....everyones different. Bloods are king. Youre in great shape so keep it fun
Thanks rh, thats close to the plan 400test/600eq, 400 being my high side for what I’m shooting for. And yessir, HCG weeks 17-20 to help the twins come back. I can’t wait to run this, it’ll be fun, and I’ll stay current on my log. I’ll get bloods halfway and at the end. The hand is healing nicely. It’s been a week, and the stitches come out in three days. I hope to start a week after stitches are out, but at this rate, it may be a couple days sooner.
RustyhookerI keep seeing that pic and cringing! I was a heavy mechanic for couple decades and that view was a norm....ACK!
You sound like youre fully prepped. I do love eq! Enjoy!!
I made a couple changes based on recommendations. I bumped the Eq up to 600mg with a 1200mg front load. I was also able to add HGH into the first several weeks of the cycle. First pin is gonna be Monday.
If you are on TRT I would run that EQ the full 20 wks. Would be good to donate sometime during cycle. I would scrap the front load of EQ if this is your first time running it. The more I think about it, I think bumping up the test would be good idea. If you are keeping it low because you are worried about estro, just get on your ai right away before problems occur. If you are looking for 10-12 lbs of keepable mass, I think bumping up the test and running the EQ the full duration is going to go a long ways towards that goal. Back down the test the last month or two if you feel you are still holding to much water and want some additional definition to come out. Could add an oral in to help harden up then also.
Stick with 2iu to begin with but as soon as sides subside and you can bump that dose up I would. Might take a few weeks but get that GH up to 4+iu as soon as possible to really get the most out of it. That is where the magic starts to happen if you can run it for long enough. Buy more if you need to but go all in on the GH or you likely will be disappointed with it.
Thank you for revisiting this. Two questions, what would you bump the test to? From past experiences, I’m hesitant to go above 400mg on test. Second, this is my first go at GH…what should it look like when it’s time to bump it to 4IU as far as sides subsiding?
Run the test at whatever you are comfortable with. You will get some good bang out of 400mg. I would only drop below that if really trying to dry out at tail end of cycle to get a good look at what you created. You will build more quality mass at 400mg versus lowering it.
You need to start out slow with the GH so your hands don't go numb which makes it a pain in the ass to sleep. Start out at 2 iu for a week or two s and if you are handling it fine bump it up another iu for a week or two and so on until you are at the max dose you want to take.
Ok copy that. I read a side effect was carpal tunnel, but I didn’t know how that presents. Thanks for the heads up!
And that’s no problem running EQ at 600 for 20, I have plenty.
Do you need Adex with your TRT?
Not at 150mg
If you are going to run the test that low I would bump up the EQ dose or vice versa unless you have good results at those doses before.
I get good results on comparatively low test doses, but I am new to EQ. When you say bump EQ up, are you thinking around 600? Or higher?
I would go with 600 EQ for your first go of it.
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Is 150mg back on a trt dose? Have you ran EQ before? I would start that GH right away.
Yes sir, that is a trt dose. I’m starting the HGH a little later for financial reasons, but if I can scratch up up the funds in the next week or so, I will run it for the full 5 months. Secondly, it is my first time running EQ. From what I understand, I can expect similar effects to Deca, which I have run, with lighter sides.
I would expect to see totally different results from EQ compared to Deca. The only similarity they have is that they both need to be ran a long time to maximize gains.
RustyhookerBasic frontload and nice layout. I would not start that adex til its really needed OR you know for a fact that your e2 conversion is high. Eq has a mild conversion TO an ai. Smashing e2 will halt gains and its unhealthy as well.
Pic looks solid so keep it simple.
Eq has near 5 week taper out. By posted pix....might look at var 50mg split during the test taper. Time it with 2week test half life in mind.
I see no pct....are you trt? Trt is entire different shift that could play well with goals. Hcg suggests pct so please list
Thank you for the solid input. I will be returning to trt afterwards. From my bloods during my last run, I learned I do have high estrogen conversion. I retain water badly…that being said, I will wait until it shows physically. I have found with my body that prevention is better than cure. I have a hard time stopping high E once it shows. As for the HCG, I get testicular atrophy fairly easily, so I added HCG to combat that. Let me know if you think it’s a bad idea.
Also, I never considered finishing off with Var and honestly don’t know too much about it. If you can explain the reasoning behind that I would appreciate the lesson.
RustyhookerYour description was to get the striations popping. Cutting of course is all diet as we know. But if your bf is low....anavar is a good finisher imo. Hardens, nice lil strength bump and frees up test levels. It kills my appetite so eating clean is easier but make sure your macros are in check.
If you drop to trt levels as you finish the eq, you still have that time to harden up. Just depends on goals. You might find youre adding nice clean mass and just keep it simple test eq.
Downside to both eq and anavar is back pumps. Tsurine fixes that. I hit 1-500mg cap and back pumps are gone. If i forget my taurine....redbull had taurine...read label. On eq or var i take a few taurine everywhere just incase. I do love eq and var though.
Hcg....gotcha....understand.
And if you convert high to e2....i agree with makwa. I like 600eq. I dont convert badly so 600 400. Others that do though..... lower test. Keep it easy. Makwa too is guru on foods. If ya need help, hes got forums all laid out