posted Tue, 07/28/2026 - 17:37
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Healthy Cycles
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This will contain 2 questions. The first is, what cycle resulted in the least amount of side effects (was the smoothest)? The second one is what was your first cycle and how much muscle did you gain?
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@Jockstrap Dropped a great insight…
No matter which route you’re taking…
There’s no free lunch in this game.
If your goal is health, stick to TRT or stay natural and forget about getting huge. If your goal is performance and pushing your physique beyond your genetic limit, stop looking for the “least side effects” cycle
Muscle gains are never guaranteed. Side effects are.
The only variable is how severe they’ll be, and that’s largely genetics. Some guys tolerate compounds extremely well, while others get wrecked on moderate doses.
Sorry, but that’s the reality of PEDs.
Smoothest: 500 test e / 400 primo e for 16 weeks.
Put on 18 lbs and went from 10.3% to 11.3% on the dexa. Some of that is glycogen so hard to say how much muscle but I’d say a solid 10 lbs. No real sides e2 in check didn’t really feel “on” except for maybe a sense of wellbeing.
First cycle: 500mg test e + 0.25mg adex e3d for 12 weeks.
Not positive on the adex dosing maybe it was EOD. I put on a solid 20 lbs but didn’t get dexa so hard to say how much was muscle. Definitely put on more fat / bloat than the primo cycle. Also even with the AI I felt I’d occasionally get some e2 sides but they would go away. Maybe blood levels weren’t stable?
Since then I’ve always used primo / mast instead of AI and never looked back.
I just completed my first cycle. Titrated up to 500 test and was just a bloat monster. Dexa had me at 15lbs muscle gain after 15 weeks. Like you, I assume 30ish percent of that to be water. Successful but i didnt feel "wonderful".
I won't run >300 test without primo in the future. I'm a high converter, and it just seems like the smart thing to do to keep my conversion down and fight e2 sides.
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First cycle is gym and perfect your diet. At 5ft 9 in the bodybuilder days a cycle wouldn't begin til at least 210 rocky solid pounds. You can add 40 solid by doing REAL WORK dude
This is literally a roids forum
If you don't ride, why are you buying a horse?
He's literally telling you the truth.
Just some lazy ass searching for cycle suggestions
I know. Fuck em. My first cycle I gained 36.7lbs of pure, lean muscle in 8 weeks.
But I'm not telling what it was. I know YOU know. But keep that shit between the bros.
You Fuckin Liar Milky - You told me it was 36.8lb's!!!!!
I thought was 86.3lbs? From horse milk and leche de toro.
It appears the Milkshake has been giving us all the run around .....
*reach around... You mean
That's his and Randomdudes Fantasy ....
Does it count as a fantasy if it actually happened?
It depends if your socks was on or not