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TestC/Deca/Anavar

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Stats
180.7 lbs
6'1"
42yo
10%BF
Dr. Prescribed 180mg/wk TRT (cyp)
Goal(s): Ultimately put on 10 pounds of muscle and dry/harden up so the Mrs WANTS to fuck (Deca might be an issue)

First time trying Deca so I'd love some feedback here. I've done Test only, Test/Var and Test/EQ cycles. Since I'm on TRT, no PCT planned. I've never used an AI but Deca worries me a little so want to at least have something on hand. My diet is good. Planning on 250g protein each day and still reviewing some of the other macros prior to starting so I can make some meal plans. My body is ice cream deficient so I will be supplementing that as my gimme.

Wks 1-14 600mg Test Cyp (split 2x/wk)
Wks 1-14 400mg Deca (split 2x/wk)
Wks 11-14 50mg Anavar daily (split 2x/day)
I can't seem to find a consensus on AI so leaning towards 12.5 Aromasin daily. Question is, start at the beginning or only after sides/labs

Skinnyboy63's picture

Well deca is a long Esther so if ya get in to trouble it will take a min to clear so I suggest to run NPP the short Esther version of deca I personally like it better than deca
I run NPP between 200-500 it just depends on my goals but @press1 knows more about this compound then I do so he might chime in good luck bud

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EhYouYou's picture

Can you still run test cyp with NPP? I've never looked at NPP but will do so tonight. I appreciate the feedback

press1's picture

Yes but you will need to be injecting them both every other day. In fact NPP, I find, is best injected every day but it depends whether you want to be injecting that frequently.

Skinnyboy63's picture

Yes you can use any test

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Cypher2377's picture

Me personally, I like to go wk 1-2 Test 400, wk 2-4 Test 500, wk6-16 Test 600, I like to ease into it and titrate up. I would also advise the same with Deca, and keep it at a 2:1 ratio. I would run it at least 16 weeks, Deca is gonna take at least 4 weeks to be fully saturated in your system. As far as running an ai, I wouldn’t run it unless you get highE2 symptoms, emotional shit, Deca dick, spicy nips etc. Then I would start low, 6.25 E3D and plan on blood work to see where you’re at, don’t just throw ai at a problem and walk away, you need labs to dial it in.

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Papa-pwn's picture

There is no consensus because there is no standard set of hormones and response from all individuals. You’ll need a blood test, more likely several, to determine what your specific needs are as it relates to an AI.

Additionally, with 19nors like Deca, it would be prudent to maintain a stock of dopamine agonists like Caber, in the event of prolactin and progesterone related side effects. Proper e2 management can mitigate the need, but it’s better to have and not need than to need and not have.

If you’re going to start out the gate with an AI, start low. A completely tanked e2 is only good for peak week and carries a whole host of sides just as bad if not worse than elevated e2.

bgonz174's picture

To avoid deca dick, start at 2:1 ratio of test to deca and work your way up. In terms of an AI, I wouldn't be any help, I hate them, I always suggest taking primo/mast for e2 management, sprinkle in some DIM and Calcium-D-glucarate, you're good to go.

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