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So I have been on Test-C since late October last year. Received the vials from a friend. Got Blood done in December, 1350 Testosterone.

I just did two tests and found my Testoterone down at 200!! I can only assume this last vial I’ve been pinning has been garbage. My vials are from Andro Labs, Test C 300.

Regardless, I finally connected here on eroods and have some new TestE otw.

I’m 50, want to possibly add something to really pack on a little size.

I’ve been on Reta and Test and have gone from 250 down to 180. As my levels were down at 200, I’m still lifting but feeling weaker than normal and not adding size.

What should I add to jump start my physique again?

Notmelgibson's picture

You were only pinning 120 twice a week then ran into bunk gear. You ve dropped from 250 down to 180. You’ve been taking Reta. You’re 50 years old and sound relatively inexperienced with steroids.
I’d just drop the Reta and double your test into the 500 range. There’s no need for adding in other variables. You’ll get the most bang for your buck with the test anyways and you’re not a young man anymore so we want to mitigate side effects where possible. Test is absolutely the highest leverage compound and you’re coming from a low dose. drop the Reta if you no longer need it. Keep it simple and effective. I’d opt for adding gh over another anabolic if anything

Notmelgibson's picture

I just saw your comment saying you’re down to maybe 20% body fat. That gives an argument to leave Reta in however if it’s affecting your ability to eat especially at the level of not hitting your protein numbers then that’s an issue. I’d drop the dose at that point. I’m still in favor of just bumping your test up. Easiest and highest leverage move at this point. Due to your higher body fat percentage I’d keep an ai on hand such as an arimidex so you can take the lowest effective dose to manage estrogen if need be. With your higher body fat percentage you’re likely not very insulin sensitive, the Reta will help some with that, and you’re not in a position to drive food up and take full advantage of adding in other stuff anyway. So why assume the added risk and lower ROI of other shit when you can just double your test?Sounds boring but what’s boring is usually most effective. Bump your test up and keep an AI on hand. Before adding in a bunch of other anabolic steroids and having to worry about their related health effects I’d dial in your ability to adhere to your diet, getting body fat down closer to like a 10-12% range, and familiarizing yourself with how your body reacts to a moderate amount of testosterone and what if anything you need to do to manage that

OptimizedBio's picture

Thank you very much for the insight and information. So you would just recommend upping the Test first. Increase lean protein intake, and see how that goes for 6-wk. maybe Deca after I get to that point.

I’m going to do daily injections for the Test E. So I’m assuming upping to 500/7 days. A TestE 250 will last me 5 weeks?

Pumped_'s picture

You're like a broken record. Are you glitching? Lol

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Notmelgibson's picture

I’m not sure how that happened lol

TeaBody's picture

You edited later and the system glitched… happens to me all the time

Or.. you got the new iPhone update which fucked up the matrix

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Notmelgibson's picture

I’m also half retarded so choosing to edit my comment with my newly updated iPhone was a recipe for disaster

Petecastiglione's picture

This is exactly why I’m grateful to have a forum. If any source has bunk it will get called out

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old.stones's picture

What was your previous dose of test c? Did you feel good on it when it was good product (when you tested at 1350)? Great weight loss story there. Any other labs out of range or did you feel any sides? If you felt good and didn't have sides, perhaps consider getting back to that state and go from there. When you do decide to blast a bit, I am really liking the old school 2:1 ratio test to deca, though reaction to deca is highly individualized (e.g., some go 1:1 or can't do much at all without sides). I appreciate how deca helps my creaky old joints. Eq is solid, but it crashes my E2 if I am not careful. You are gonna have to experiment a bit on yourself and see what feels right and keeps you healthy. Consider HGH, I have just started that and I am hopeful it rounds things out for me. I am 56 so around the same age group and still figuring things out. Going to add some low dose proviron in the mix here with the test c, deca and HGH, see how it pops for me. Also consider carefully your goals - blast up too much and it's obvious you are on gear if you care at all about that. Perhaps a TRT clinic for a legit script for test c and even deca? I find it nice to know for sure that is legit dosed and I can travel with it no worries. Then you can add on goodies from there. A lot of good info here and you can fall down the youtube rabbit hole for many hours to learn tons of stuff. Good luck!

OptimizedBio's picture

I've been doing 120mg twice a week since the beginning of the year. Nothing else is out, aside from Free T. I was feeling great in December, but that was before the weight loss. I made assumptions the weight loss and the decrease in caloric and protein was having the most effect on my lifts. Everyone has been super helpful here, I'm glad my buddy directed me to this source last week. I don't have any desire to hit up a TRT Clinic, I'll take my chances I guess with the Wild Wild West.

Gainz411's picture

Sorry to hear that, brother. Lots of great options to choose from in this forum. I’m happy to have found eroid as well

Claudezilla's picture

If that’s the same lab I’m thinking of I’ve used it multiple times and no they aren’t on here had a few buddy’s get insane pip from it didn’t bother me but sorry to hear they’ve gone dark sucks if they peddling bunk gear…

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OptimizedBio's picture

I always get PIP, quad injections. I assumed it normal. Now I get opened to Eroids.com, and see all this stuff about No PIP. Grrrr.

In their defense, they said they’ll send me replacements. Said they checked batch and no reports. So I asked them to send me Test E instead.

I actually just did a Roidtest, don’t know how good that even is. But it didn’t change color to that of Cypionate.

Now I just want to get on something to maximize where I’m at now. I have Test E250 coming from a vendor on here. And looking to get some backup and something to intensify the kick.

Milfpounder's picture

If you wanna jump start ur results, use test proprionate or phenylpropionate alongside your test cyp for 3-4 weeks as a kickstart while your cyp reaches full blood serum levels. Will need to pin every day though (potentially EOD with phenylpropionate).

Tbackin's picture

Add real test for starters. Ha I had to say it!
Then add in a bit of real deca if a 19 nor with joint support (nice for us older fellas) suits you well.
Maybe a bit of of a DHT compound too if you have a bit of experience and know how to monitor/adjust multiple compounds and the changes they will bring to estrogen, cortisol (depending) etc. possibly in some Primo, Mast.
Or possibly an oral like Anavar too, or all of the above if you ain't scared.

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OptimizedBio's picture

Yeah, wish I knew. I had real Test, then I didn’t. What a bummer huh.

I have some Test E inbound from a source found here, so I feel like I’m back on right track.

I take Peptides, so I’m not scared. I’m just curious what I should add first. I don’t have the wisdom yet for what I should tweak. So probably best to start with the easiest add than not.

Have rythm setup to check my levels every other month. I was loving life running around 1300-1500 back in November. That was before I lost weight with Reta. Now I’m 180, from 250, feel like I was just missing my protein numbers and was suffering in gym. Didn’t even think my T could be down to 250.

I wanna pack on some muscle now that I’m almost 20% BF.

Tbackin's picture

Grats on your weight loss and improved health and lifestyle. Here's my two cents brother, coming from a big ol boy who can gain weight very easily and not always the good kind.

Keep cutting if you can since you are on the train and have that momentum going now. If you can hit it hard and just squeeze out another 4% fat loss your body and look will thank you. You will rebound hard and grow like a sprout and it will be much leaner nicer muscle and a leaner polished muscles look.

Once you are ok with your BF (even if that is now at 20% and you just don't want to cut anymore, I get it) then hit the test as high as you can within a good range for your health, and add in Deca. Keep it simple for a bulk. Test and Deca, train like a beast, eat like a beast, sleep like the dead, hydrate.

If you are not against orals I'd throw in some Anavar too for training and strength boost. For many it can and does help lean you out too, even if you are at 20% bf contrary to what all the ripped less than 10% bf bros like to spout, it can and will help you gain a bit of lean mass if training and eating are on point.

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