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How does everyone go about their AAS use with their doctors? Benefits to sharing and not sharing? Do you guys fill them in on everything you take, talk in sort of a "grey area" or keep it hidden completely and if so how?

I just got new insurance and therefore have to find a new doctor after a couple years of not going, I could see myself telling my Dr about usage if this was a lifelong PCP but someone new seems tough.

Also how even could you hide AAS use from them anyways? Lets say you get bloodwork done even if you're on TRT levels your FSH and LH will still show they're shut down and they'll know then likely.

Curious on how everyone goes about it and impact it could have on insurance/legality

Tinman79's picture

Yeah I agree with most that it’s better to not tell them. Now I will say my Dr knows or I should say office knows bc I seem to see 5 different drs that work there so that’s annoying. Except the new one. She’s hot. I like her. She’s cool too. I’m already labeled an addict in my charts bc of my past so there’s that. I’m in the chart as doing TRT through telemedicine so they believe it’s monitored when in reality I’m doing it myself and obviously run cycles too. I do my own labs when I need to for cycle so I know where I am and then I get their labs when they make me for my blood pressure meds or muscle relaxer that I take once in awhile bc of micro cervical neck fusions. I make sure I know I’m good when they do that. Although I’m in the middle of cycle right now well beginning of one and they want labs lol. Gonna have to keep putting them off for a couple months until this is over so I know I’m good. No need to rock the damn boat lol. Wish they’d told me a month ago when I knew I was Holden. Long story short keep your medical file as clean as possible. Mines tarnished and always will be now. I’ve also never had issues with insurance or life insurance but I work in manufacturing in a skilled trade and they offer good benefits so maybe that’s why idk. I’m on both mine and wife’s bc hers is better and secondary. Neither have ever gave me problems either. I’m sure it’s not the same in s as ll states or countries though.

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Aggieguy's picture

No I do not tell them shit. That will go on your medical record then your insurance won't pay for anything

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wizer205's picture

oh wow I didn't know that

Jockstrap's picture

Do
Not
Tell
Your
Doctor!!

If it is in your written papers, required by legal then you become a high risk patient and can lose your insurance!! You are injecting illicit non dr prescription drugs. You're the same as iv drug user per insurance. You use privatemdlabs, quest, etc and maintain your hippa self regulations.

Don't believe me...its ok...go for it....your med record will not disappear in Dr's office.....

Claudezilla's picture

I wouldn’t tell em a damn thing…they love writing down everything f you tell them then it’s in your permanent medical record..and now your insurance sees it too. And depending on what kind of insurance you have they could deny or possibly drop you and honestly most doctors are completely ignorant on the topic. I’ve had many a er visit from infection way back and just said I got poked from something just played dumb. I’ve had 100cc pumped out of a hematoma and played dumb you’re just better off not telling them unless it’s life or death then yeh spill the beans other than that zip it

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Jahbabble's picture

They don't even write it down! My doc asks every time if I'm good with them using their AI listening app during my appts. Uploads it straight to the insurance company I'm sure

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randomdude's picture

I’m 38 and still see the same general physician that touched my balls in middle school for sports physicals. I’ve never told him. To be honest I’d trust him but I see no reason to tell him.

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Banjokid2020's picture

Damn, must be real good at touching balls if you're still going there 20+ years.. he taking new patients?

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randomdude's picture

He tells me I’m too old for sports physicals but I insist he does them.

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Banjokid2020's picture

I insist on a prostate exam every time. But the dentist looked at me weird when I asked him to do one too.

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Darkhorse777's picture

Depends on your doctor.... I would find one who had a experience with these things they are out there I have had issues with disclosing general health and them kinda being judgemental and not like hey here's the issues how to we go from here or if they monitor it and there is a risk is you compete like merick they do testing... I would have discretion

Pumped_'s picture

Doctors Must Adhere to Ethics: The Hippocratic Oath has been binding since the 6th Century B.C., but it’s by no means outdated. A modern version exists, and doctors take it. The oath serves as a sort of moral guide, and medical practitioners must abide by a code of ethics. While doctor’s view patient-physician confidentiality as a fundamental tenet of their code of ethics, they are bound to abide by it within the constraints of the law.
Harm Must be Reported: By law and ethics, a doctor must report bodily injury.

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Jockstrap's picture

By law and ethics, a doctor must report bodily injury.

randomdude's picture

What about beastiality?

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Min Diesel's picture

Bro I straight up told my dr from the rip. Like “hey this is what i do, I’m going to do this with or without your help. And for a while my reg doc was cool with it until i gave her bloods 5 weeks in on a cycle at which point she cut me off and referred me to an endocrinologist. Basically i went there and did the same thing except this time i got even more lucky, not only was my endocrinologist cool with it writing me for bloods 4-5 times a year but also wrote me rx for letro etc. I could even get caber if i needed. I got exceptionally lucky. Basically if your dr understands the concept of harm reduction you’re golden, if not, find a new dr.

Khandum's picture

That’s such a good question to raise, I recently got a new PCP. I think he is pretty chill, and he is easy to talk to. I was very open with him about all my prior drug use and current, except AAS. I am also trying to gauge if I can divulge that kind of information to him or not. I would like to disclose everything to him so then I can be treated accordingly, he could also probably pull some strings to get full labs done as well, and it would be covered from insurance. This way I wouldn’t have to go out of pocket for quest. I think it could be a huge win if things swing your direction, if not find a new doctor. Their clinic will be the ones not profiting by you walking out that door.

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Pumped_'s picture

My own personal preference is not to. One i dont know or trust my doctor enough to pull the "your doing illegal substances" card on me and refuse to treat me. Two, im 50 yrs old and i want to feel safe that when i report a headache or pain i get testing for everything and not told "stop the steroids and see if it stops" and end up with something more serious like a tumor or cancer (a little dramatic) but i want to be taken seriously right away, not every symptom i have blamed on what i am taking. In my state its a schedule III and i am a private person and not telling an almost stranger my crimes. But thats my personal decision and do not discredit those who have platonic relationships with their doctors. I dont have that openness and probably need therapy for it.

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TheOGof93's picture

Yeah I agree totally with this! Plus, they treat you the same as a junkie if they find out you're doing illegal gear. It's just not wroth it.

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romainesweep's picture

This is what stops me too. I'm sure there's good ones out there, but I feel like 95% of doctors are just going to hear what they want to hear and then stop listening regardless of what the issue is.

Scipeno's picture

Unless you're holding out for life insurance, or getting TRT from your doctor, there's no good reason not to be honest. He's going to be able to manage your blood pressure, cholesterol, or other issues that may arise. In rare cases, medical records can be subpoenaed, but there would have to be other stuff going on for that to happen.

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Scipeno's picture

But to answer your question, it won't affect your health insurance, it potentially would impact your eligibility for life insurance.

In terms of Them figuring it out through your labs, if you're consistently showing elevated liver enzymes, erythrocytosis (Elevated red blood cells), showing up on cycle with water retention, and you're jacked, a savvy doctor will figure it out.
Most doctors don't know shit about steroids, other than learning common risks from steroids as a whole, almost never compound specific. But that doesn't mean they can't help you with side effects.

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frofrank's picture

Yeah don't really care about life insurance, was more so scared about potential issues with insurance declining coverage of surgeries or something down the road if the AAS use was on my file.

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Scipeno's picture

They can't deny you insurance coverage, but let's say down the road you destroy your liver or something, maybe it would be lower priority for the transplant list. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other issues, if you let them know, let us know what happened.

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Test n Chill's picture

I go to a very liberal doctor. I'm completely honest with him and he treats me and tracks my health accordingly. This is how it should be. Doctors are there to ensure the health of their patients, not inject their own personal morals. obviously, people are people, but you shouldn't feel like you cannot be honest with your doctor.

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frofrank's picture

Nice that's how it should be, should be able 100% honest with them thats what they're there for.

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TheOGof93's picture

My PCP doctor is who prescribes my TRT so he knows that, I don't really let him know anything else. I just take my usual TRT dose when he wants bloods done so it doesn't come back through the roof. But I am sure he knows I use other compounds. It's kind of a grey area with some doctors who will kind of just turn the other cheek and some make a big stink and try to cut you off TRT. Depends on your doctor, I would judge the relationship before divulging any more info than you absolutely need to. But just take your normal trt dose for 2 weeks before your blood tests and you should be fine. And go get your test done like 6 days after your last shot.

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