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I remember when I got my pack on 31th december and it was good surprise from Ugfreak . Happy New Year !
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Do you guys no longer offer shipping from the UK warehouse. Been a while since last order; I can only see the US or International warehouse.
We no longer have a UK warehouse. We decided to discontinue it. You can order from our INTL section.
TESTO E 250
Don’t care it’s not from an individual, it’s from the source to jano. Of course you’d send in your best. Retard
Clearly you're the dumbass. Spend your time elsewhere.
No you are bud now blow me
Can mods make sure we only allow adults onto this forum? This is not a place for children.
Stop selling him Tren. This is what beta looks like when on tren.
TRENBO E 200
TESTO C 250
This isn't looking cool. These are my test levels at 600mgs using PP testo250. I've used this test in the past and had these levels using only 200mgs a week and have posted that before in a review along with labs. Sounds like there's a bad batch or inconsistent mgs in bottles out there? Kinda pissed as this was weeks 8-14 in my pricey primo cycle. 6 weeks ago using a different bottle of PP test levels were 3200 total T and 1043 free on 500mgs.
Batch: UHFD186
Soon as you said you were running Primo, my first thought was maybe shbg was low, resulting in less total bound test in circulation but then free test would show as much higher. I know you know this so just agreeing this is not normal results if TT is down 1k on 100 extra test. I pin daily with regular bloods too - shit like this is frustrating. Good luck bro
Yep! Exactly. Free test also dropped by 100+ points. Livid man. Just wasted 8 weeks of a primo cycle now.
How many days after testosterone injection did you donate blood?
Daily pins. Draw labs 7hrs later. Same protocol with every drawn labs.
Enanthate daily? You wrote 250pp, which means it's enanthate. After taking enanthate, tests should be taken at least 24 hours later.
PP stands for Para pharma. Who the hell cares when it's pulled with daily pins as long as all labs and pinning protocol are the same as previous labs. Bloods are stable and I do the same protocol year round. 6 weeks ago test was 1000 points higher at a less dose with the same pin times and lab time. And yes daily regardless of ester. Keeps my hct/rbc way down compared to 2x a week. I have 8 other labs with the same protocol and this is the only one extremely lower test even at a higher dose. Go check out my post. Posted all my proof and labs there. I'm not looking for your advice on pinning protocol when I know what works for me.
It's really weird that you don't mention enanthate or propionate. You're probably taking it at midnight so you can donate blood at 7 a.m. Lmao
What the hell are you trying to prove. My post on the other page literally says test E and I pin at 10pm before bed every night of my life and pull labwork before work at 7am. Literally posted pictures of the bottle that cleary say Testo e. Any of conspiracies you're trying to bunk? Use your fingers to click around and go find the post big boy.
Can you post your actual cycle because I’m actually concerned this might be effecting me too as I run similar cycles. I use para pharma test all the time so I’m actually curious to what caused this.
600 test/400 primo 4iu gh. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I can tell you after switching ugl 3.5 weeks ago, I feel completely normal again and gaining size as expected, joints not sore and squatting my usual 315 for sets with no pain. Running bloods here in 2 weeks to confirm this. Can't wait to confirm this mislabled prop. Every single number I have makes perfect sense it's prop 100. But freak can assure us it's not possible. Because he must slap labels on everything and fill every vial.
Unfortunately, I think you might be right. And I say “unfortunately” because it looks like we’re dealing with a source that simply doesn’t want to admit they may have made a mistake. Not even acknowledging the possibility or backing it up with HPLC results for that Test 250 batch.
In my opinion, it could very well be underdosed … or honestly, it might even be propionate. But of course, the source will never come out and say that, because it would hurt their credibility.
To me, it would actually be more respectable to say, “Yeah, we messed up … it happens … and we’ll make it right,” instead of trying to sweep it under the rug or pretend nothing’s wrong.
I’m waiting on those results too, so please keep me posted when you get them.
Ps. I’m a customer, not a hater. Love PP and have been using it from ugfreak and teamRoids and never had any problems. But I do agree with my buddy Kpower in this specific case !
Appreciate it brother. All my bloodwork the past year lines up with this being test prop 100. I take 0.35ml of test a day. If it were test e 250, that's 612mg a week. If that bottle is in fact mislabeled test prop 0.35ml is 245mg and lines up perfectly with my usual cruise doses if factoring in total T and e2.
Recent bloods (possible mislabeled test prop bottle)
600/400p
Total T 2277, free 907
E2: 34
6 weeks ago (using a different para pharma test e250)
500/300primo
Total T 3093, Free 1042
E2:44
3 months ago cruising using PP test E 250 at 200mg (test only no AI)
Total T: 2005
E2: 56
I'm not coming out and saying all para pharma is fake and underdosed as I have used them the past year with perfect numbers coming back, but everyone here except for the src can say something fishy is going on here. The least he could do is be like shit dude, something isn't adding up and maybe 1/10,000 it could happen. But personally idfc because I'm not trying to get anything free from him or refunded, etc. I'm not some asshat on here always causing problems or saying shit doesn't work. It is what it is and the risk we take with ugl. But he knows I can't prove it by sending off to jano since I used the whole bottle already, so I'll just be labeled a liar or unexperienced user by him. Hope everyone out there proceeds with caution is all.
Keep us informed.
We understand your results aren't as you expected, but you may just look into whether other reasons could be the cause as well. Para Pharma has never had underdosed batches. Ever. Every single lab test have proven them legit. There's no labs yet for this exact batch. At this moment, we can only refer to the former results proving it's legit and until it's proven it's not the correct amount of test for each mg, there's no proof it's a bad batch either. Testosterone levels may remain low despite using testosterone therapy if the dosage is insufficient to overcome the body's natural production or if the timing of blood tests does not align with peak absorption. Additionally, factors such as individual metabolism, absorption issues, or underlying health conditions can also affect testosterone levels.
I did my homework and you cannot tell me that these numbers don't make sense with this theory. This bottle was a bit extra spicy for me and caused pip. But I thought it was just inflammation from daily pins and primo 200 at 14is weeks. Another guy below just said his test dropped by 1000 too using a new bottle and had a huge knot on his ass, which happens with me and prop. I literally had to stop glute injections the last 6 weeks for the first time in my pinning life because it was so bad. I'm not looking for free gear or saying para pharma is shit as this was promo supply. But my numbers and lab work could 100% prove there's mislabeled prop out there.
The other guy used crystallized test cyp.You can't compare it regarding the knot. Yes sure. The golden Test E 250 was 100% Tren E according to people, or some other oil, this, that, third. Now this is 100% mislabeled test prop.