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600 test/400 primo 4iu gh. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I can tell you after switching ugl 3.5 weeks ago, I feel completely normal again and gaining size as expected, joints not sore and squatting my usual 315 for sets with no pain. Running bloods here in 2 weeks to confirm this. Can't wait to confirm this mislabled prop. Every single number I have makes perfect sense it's prop 100. But freak can assure us it's not possible. Because he must slap labels on everything and fill every vial.
Unfortunately, I think you might be right. And I say “unfortunately” because it looks like we’re dealing with a source that simply doesn’t want to admit they may have made a mistake. Not even acknowledging the possibility or backing it up with HPLC results for that Test 250 batch.
In my opinion, it could very well be underdosed … or honestly, it might even be propionate. But of course, the source will never come out and say that, because it would hurt their credibility.
To me, it would actually be more respectable to say, “Yeah, we messed up … it happens … and we’ll make it right,” instead of trying to sweep it under the rug or pretend nothing’s wrong.
I’m waiting on those results too, so please keep me posted when you get them.
Ps. I’m a customer, not a hater. Love PP and have been using it from ugfreak and teamRoids and never had any problems. But I do agree with my buddy Kpower in this specific case !
Appreciate it brother. All my bloodwork the past year lines up with this being test prop 100. I take 0.35ml of test a day. If it were test e 250, that's 612mg a week. If that bottle is in fact mislabeled test prop 0.35ml is 245mg and lines up perfectly with my usual cruise doses if factoring in total T and e2.
Recent bloods (possible mislabeled test prop bottle)
600/400p
Total T 2277, free 907
E2: 34
6 weeks ago (using a different para pharma test e250)
500/300primo
Total T 3093, Free 1042
E2:44
3 months ago cruising using PP test E 250 at 200mg (test only no AI)
Total T: 2005
E2: 56
I'm not coming out and saying all para pharma is fake and underdosed as I have used them the past year with perfect numbers coming back, but everyone here except for the src can say something fishy is going on here. The least he could do is be like shit dude, something isn't adding up and maybe 1/10,000 it could happen. But personally idfc because I'm not trying to get anything free from him or refunded, etc. I'm not some asshat on here always causing problems or saying shit doesn't work. It is what it is and the risk we take with ugl. But he knows I can't prove it by sending off to jano since I used the whole bottle already, so I'll just be labeled a liar or unexperienced user by him. Hope everyone out there proceeds with caution is all.
Keep us informed.
We understand your results aren't as you expected, but you may just look into whether other reasons could be the cause as well. Para Pharma has never had underdosed batches. Ever. Every single lab test have proven them legit. There's no labs yet for this exact batch. At this moment, we can only refer to the former results proving it's legit and until it's proven it's not the correct amount of test for each mg, there's no proof it's a bad batch either. Testosterone levels may remain low despite using testosterone therapy if the dosage is insufficient to overcome the body's natural production or if the timing of blood tests does not align with peak absorption. Additionally, factors such as individual metabolism, absorption issues, or underlying health conditions can also affect testosterone levels.
I did my homework and you cannot tell me that these numbers don't make sense with this theory. This bottle was a bit extra spicy for me and caused pip. But I thought it was just inflammation from daily pins and primo 200 at 14is weeks. Another guy below just said his test dropped by 1000 too using a new bottle and had a huge knot on his ass, which happens with me and prop. I literally had to stop glute injections the last 6 weeks for the first time in my pinning life because it was so bad. I'm not looking for free gear or saying para pharma is shit as this was promo supply. But my numbers and lab work could 100% prove there's mislabeled prop out there.
The other guy used crystallized test cyp.You can't compare it regarding the knot. Yes sure. The golden Test E 250 was 100% Tren E according to people, or some other oil, this, that, third. Now this is 100% mislabeled test prop.
Crazy that you personally fill every vial and slap every label on yourself to be 100%. So lucky I ran out of the damn bottle before labs came back. Never had this happen in 10 years of dabbling with gear.
E2 came back lower than normal as well at 30. When it's usually 45-55 on primo/test at 500mgs. When I cruise at 200mgs and no AI or primo, e2 is 56 and total T is 2000 range. So that's telling me this bottle is either dosed at 100mgs (which I doubt) or could be potentially mislabeled 100mg prop. I take 2.45mL of test a week which should be 612mg using PP TESTO E 250. If you assume this could have been mislabeld prop at 100mg, I take 2.45ml a week = 245mg of test a week. And that number lines up with my cruise total T numbers 2005 cruise vs 2276 these labs, except now my estro is significantly lower at 30 compared to high 50s, telling the primo is obviously lowering e2. That's going to be my assumption is that we could have mislabeled test e and prop put there, not necessarily underdosed.
Sure wish I didn't use all of that bottle to jano. Something fishy is going on with it for sure. I pull labs every 8 weeks so how fast I metabolize test has been constistent my entire life. Posted all my lab work in a post with trends all using PP test.
I feel you, bro !
Really disappointing. Did you see any HPLC for this specific batch ?
E2 came back lower than normal as well at 30. When it's usually 45-55 on primo/test at 500mgs. When I cruise at 200mgs and no AI or primo, e2 is 56 and total T is 2000 range. So that's telling me this bottle is either dosed at 100mgs (which I doubt) or could be potentially mislabeled 100mg prop. I take 2.45mL of test a week which should be 612mg using PP TESTO E 250. If you assume this could have been mislabeld prop at 100mg, I take 2.45ml a week = 245mg of test a week. And that number lines up with my cruise total T numbers 2005 cruise vs 2276 these labs, except now my estro is significantly lower at 30 compared to high 50s, telling the primo is obviously lowering e2. That's going to be my assumption is that we could have mislabeled test e and prop put there, not necessarily underdosed.
Nope I have not. Unless there's a scientific reason my test levels would drop by 1000 even when increasing my doses by 100mg each, all signs point to inconsistent mgs in every bottle. Guess I'm finally done with para pharma. These were my levels 6 weeks ago on 500mgs using a different bottle but labeled as the same batch. Also want to state that I do daily pins before bed and labs always pulled at 7am fasted before work.
My levels on first bottle were 1941, next bottle they were 941.
What dose where you taking?
250 a week
PLEASE tell me you have more of this bottle. Let's jano test it.
I have 2 unopened kp
You taking anything else that may effect score?
You had two bottles from same batch, you got bloods?
I don’t know if the batch number was the same. And yes I got labs. And that was all I was taking. Also first bottle pinned beautifully second bottle put a knot so big it looked like a bbl.
I think it's mislabeled prop dude. Read my above assumption. Makes perfect sense. I always had tons of pip with this bottle as well. And prop give me pip every time.
I wouldn’t doubt it, my buddy called me today said his crashed in his drawer? What’s up with the stuff crashing, even at normal temps. I got some primo from them too I need to send it off as well
I have primo 200 from here and know someone who jano tested this batch. You can pm me if you have the 200.
Can I send a friend request?
Sent you a fr brotha
Feel you, nothing worse then a bbl after injection, and also a big knot.
That’s right brotha
TD from the freak. Took about 3 weeks, usual for intl. Just some test e nothing too crazy. Thought I was gonna get the red batch but lucked out and it's all clear. Can't wait to run it.
Thanks for posting.Just FYI, the red one is perfectly fine and proven legit as well with labs. Everybody worrying about the color will have to quit using the product completely in the future, when all the other raws are completely done and no more available. Then it'll be that red color only.