I love uncs classic dbol, 10mg is a good little sprinkle on top of the preworkout mix.

LOL It looks like I caused a DBol Vs Adrol debate whilst I've been asleep! I was referring to DBol and TNE purely as a preworkout tool, for lifting big weights and feeling amped - not using it long term avery single day for the oral in it to build a physique. DBol and TNE always felt the better of the 2 versions for me as you had the happy feeling of the DBol in there and I think it stimulates the CNS more than Adrol does - Adrol tends to make me feel tired and lethargic. Adrol does go well with TNE because the Adrol adds a lot of agression and hate into the lift and the TNE will stimulate you, you can generate a lot of power from it.

Water retention from Anadrol and Dbol isn’t just “extra weight” … it’s your body’s defense response. Both hit the CNS hard, which ramps up cortisol and shifts your system into a kind of fight-or-flight stress mode. That hormonal punch is what makes water stick.

Now, the big difference:
Dbol mostly pulls extracellular water (under the skin). That’s why guys often look puffy or bloated on it.
Adrol leans more toward intracellular water (inside the muscle cell). So instead of just looking watery, you look fuller, denser, like the muscle is pumped 24/7.

Why one over the other IMHO…

Adrol hits harder for size, fullness, and strength … but it can wreck appetite and liver values faster.
Dbol gives that classic anabolic drive, smoother strength, and often feels “happier” to run … but cosmetically it can make you look soft.
So it’s not that one is “better,” it’s just what look and feel you’re chasing.

They are both Toxic mate, the difference between the 2 is negligable. You have to just accept that with any oral if you use it over a few months then your liver values will rise, but after a month of discontinued use your levels will be back to normal especially if you use Liver supps also when you come off the oral to help reduce your enzyme levels. With DBol, 50mg per day will make anyone strong - and you will feel good whilst doing it. Yes it will bloat you with a bit more water but that will also enable you to lift more as it gives a greater contractile force within the muscle, it also loads glycogen better than Adol does giving better energy within the muscle itself. On the other hand, 50mg of Adrol per day I've always found to be pretty useless for getting strong on - ideally it needs to be 100mg per day to match 50mg of DBol per day. Adrol generally will make you feel hostile and hate everyone in sight, it does me anyway LOL If you shoot your TNE alongside 30mg of DBol tabs then you will really feel good off that preworkout - you don't need them to be both in an oil for the effect to work mate.

People seem to get so wrapped up in the fact that DBol makes you hold a little more water, but tell me who on here is just about to go into comp with less than 10% bodyfat where it would even matter?? I would expect anyone who is about to go into a Bodybuilding comp to be running something like MTren or Halo in the final several weeks and not be looking at basic compounds like Adrol or DBol which are generally used for intial bulking phases.

Both drugs Dbol and Anadrol are excellent.

They share similar non-genomic effects (fast CNS activation, strength surge, etc.), but Dbol tends to give a sharper “punch” from the very first dose. You feel it quicker, especially in strength and aggression. That said, both compounds work best when stacked over days and weeks … strength, muscle volume, and true anabolic impact really start compounding as the run continues.
Now …. Key difference that separates them … and it’s fundamental:

Dbol always causes water retention. Doesn’t matter if your diet is clean … retention happens. The only question is whether it’s moderate or extreme, and that depends on your diet and your genetics.
The retention from Dbol is extracellular and subcutaneous. That means it sits under your skin, makes you bloated, heavier, and bigger-looking almost overnight. Ask any ectomorph … 9 times out of 10, he’ll pick Dbol because of that instant “size.”
But the downside is clear: subcutaneous water means you look smooth, not dry. That’s why bodybuilders often avoid Dbol pre-contest.
Personally, I don’t do well with Dbol it wrecks my blood pressure. Still, I think it’s a great drug when used right, and in certain phases it even outshines Adrol.

Anadrol is a totally different beast. It’s less anabolic milligram-for-milligram compared to Dbol, gains come slower, and it doesn’t give the same bloated look.
Why?
Because the water it pulls is intracellular … inside the muscle cell. That gives you dense, full muscle bellies instead of a watery, smooth look. It’s a slower process, but it’s more aesthetic and sustainable. This isn’t bro-science, it’s pharmacology. (Pretty much mirrors what I’ve experienced myself over the years.)
That’s why you’ll even see top coaches using Anadrol pre-contest. When an athlete is flat after carb-up, a touch of Anadrol pulls water into the muscle and fills them out without the subcutaneous spillover you’d get from Dbol. Try finding a coach who runs Dbol in that situation … it’s basically unheard of.

Most people don’t understand these nuances. They throw drugs together, train half-assed, eat garbage, and expect results. In a perfect setup …dialed diet, hard training, smart PED protocol … Anadrol’s gains tend to be more sustainable than Dbol’s, because Dbol often fools guys into thinking they’ve grown when it’s just water weight.

So…both compounds have their place. Some people swear by Dbol, others by Anadrol. It’s individual response, genetics, and preference.

Me personally? I avoid Dbol most of the time because of the BP issues, but I’ll still use it occasionally in blends or injectable form. Overall though, Anadrol is my go-to for the reasons I laid out.

That’s my humble take. Not gospel, not the “one truth” … just what I’ve seen, used, and learned over time.