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How long were you running 700 tren for? That's pretty heavy, typically only see that at the last stretch of a pro's prep phase with a way lower test dose to reduce bloat.
Not sure about your ancillaries by the way, but you should absolutely look into low dose rosuvastatin and ezetimibe to help get that cholesterol into a better place if you haven't yet.
Try 1200mg to 1400mg some maybe more. And they don't do "way lower test dose" they do no test at all last 2 weeks.
There's other things you can do about your cholesterol before jumping on drugs like that.
Jrihard89Eh 700mg is not pro. Maybe national.. maybe regional high level guys.. but the pros are on way more leading up to prep. Hometown buddy placed top 5 two times in NY pro and he’s been over 1.2g of tren.
Jeez I thought I was pushing it, I don’t understand how they can stand that high of a dose. Someone mentioned chasing fame and Money, I guess they are right people will do anything for money and fame. But I’ve been pushing hard for a couple months and yes I have seen gains and improvements but nothing like what I was expecting
Yeah bro. Those dudes are a different level on grams of sauce.
0.5mg Ana EOD is a lot mang.
It’s a lot ? I read EOD was typical
I’m glad you are lowering the dosages man have you see your Dr or shown them these results?
No, I’m not trying to be hospitalized again, remember in July I spent 10 days in hospital because tirzepitide melted my GallBladder and blocked me pancrease from excreting insulin and blocked my liver from draining properly I became jaundice. I got two stints one for the pancreas and one for the liver. I’ll try and fix my labs on my own first.
Ok man, well I hope all gets better and levels off for you. I’m sure your family would like to have you around for a long time dude. Having a huge physique doesn’t mean shit if you are rotting away in a casket bro.
My family and I are actually watching Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson and Sheryl Crow in concert right now
Nice dude. Enjoy.
Glad to hear your lowering things.
Yep I think from the labs my liver is taking a beating. I don’t care about testosterone shutdown but I do care about liver shut down lol. I should be able to reverse the red by removing the Tren
You taking nac and tudca too? If not you should look into them.
This is a must. NAC should be taken on any cycle, and tudca helps particularly with orals as they are almost all cholestatic since tudca can regulate bile.
You've been on trt since 11 year old?
lol 27 years old
I’m pretty sure he’s 43. He had the issue when he was 27 and has been on TRT dosages for 16 years. That’s how I read it.
Ah yes. I'm an idiot. Well if 43, why not blast/cruise like the rest of us old heads. And by blast I mean less than a gram combined if you're just a gym bro and know what you're doing. If so, shutdown isn't a concern if you're constantly taking exogenous testosterone and always have been, right?
You’re good dude. Exactly you are correct. But some folks go way overboard with the dosages just being a gym bro.
Yeah but this dude was talking about blasting some insane numbers in another thread.
Got it. I was about to say, is his predicament, he wants to blast multiple grammies just because he's permanently shut down and thinks it's an excuse to do so. If vigorous Steve is jacked running only 600 total mgs currently (stated on most recent q&a), non of us gym bros need close to a gram then..ha!
In all fairness, he didn't get to his size on 600mg. He ran grams. But now he's able to retain/get back to where he was with less. But I'm with you. The majority of us gym bros could get very respectable physiques if we focused on the right things first.. nutrition, sleep, stress management, training, etc. The gear is just the icing on the cake
Yeah was exactly my point for sure.
Some folks think way more is better, and it’s not. If you are a competitive bodybuilder you are taking grams and grams of shit. That is for an actual cause though. They are competing in pro bodybuilding for a few years and get out and get off the gear in large quantities. They are in the game for fame and fortune though. Even the pros aren’t dipshits taking huge amounts for their lifetime.
I want to be huge like Nick walker
LMAO, well at 43 that’s not a possibility. And even if you were taking the same exact amount of sauce it doesn’t mean it would work for you. Regardless of what people think genetics has a shit ton to do with whether your gonna grow or not, with or without drugs.
Dude it’s about the training. Are you training hard enough and smart enough? Are you eating enough food? The gear is a performance enhancer it’s not a cure all or miracle drug.
Nick takes insane amounts of HGH, insulin, gear, and bodybuilding is his job. So he eats, trains eats follows his protocol for the time in his training, and sleeps. That’s it. And he’s also only 31 and already a fuckin huge freak.
I’m glad to see you are backing off of crazy dosages man. I would do bloods again after you are down to the 600 EQ and 500 Test for a bit to compare the results. Then you can tweak dosages if desired to be safe levels for you bud.
Swear I've been seeing you around all the time lately, always love what you have to say. He'll be closer to Rich Piana than Nick Walker if he keeps pushing dosages, and I'm not talking about jacked.
Anything over 1g of AAS from my own experience has severely diminishing returns unless it's at the end of a cutting phase for a very temporary look.
Man that made me chuckle. I'm assuming he's 43.