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Pinning multiple injectables

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I'm starting my first "dual injection" cycle of Test C/EQ (done test/anavar a couple of times) and was wondering if I can draw in the same syringe or if they need to be separate. I'm concerned about when trying to get the air out to get an accurate read and some of the first compound gets into the other vial. Thanks for your help!

Tomahawk_25's picture

Hii guys, is it safe to buy syringes and needles on Amazon? On the syringe box is written fot oral use .

Greg's picture

Look for BD or luer lock syringes. Needles will not fit oral or craft syringes. You can get syringes with and without needles (e.g. 3ml Luer lock syringes with 23g 1inch needle)

Insulin syringes are not what you are looking for unless you are using peptides.

BigSexy3's picture

I learned long ago and was fortunate....but I used to grab a 3ml barrel, load up 1cc Test 250, then a 3 oil cutter blend 150mg/1ml to all equal 2 full ml. I would sandwich everything, spin the barrel on my palms like rolling it and watch the oils blend all together. Injecting 1ml one day, the other ml a couple of days later. But....when you inject....and when you pull out the pin....you can contaminate the barrel with smidgens of blood. How? The suction part during pulling the pin out. You have to be very clever abd lucky to hold the push syringe portion from moving the slightest will draw blood back into the pin and leak into the barrel of oil....

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Backbacon's picture

Sounds like a bad way to get an infection, of course it sounds good in theory to save supplies. I don’t even use the same needle when drawing up/injecting. Working in the medical field I know the needle gets blunted

smurfdude1234567's picture

Yeah. Big yikes and no no. Doesn’t need to be seen to be contaminated- once burred or entered a body it’s time to throw away. I would never draw and inject with the same pin mjm mmmkjq mmmmmmlk

smurfdude1234567's picture

I don’t even know what the end of this comment turned into LOL! Think I was 1/2 asleep.

press1's picture

You are turning into Chuck!!! Lmao

smurfdude1234567's picture

Crazy fucker hahaha. Truly hope he’s doing well inside. Nah I just do the occasional Mary Jane but haven’t gotten to partake recently. Not even a drop for this guy.

1 year, 11 months, and 22 days today. I keep an app I downloaded when I first kicked again and do my daily affirmations and just mental notes. Thought it was stupid until I started making progress and looking back at some of the bad spots I’d been in. I always had the memories, but I never forced myself to write them down whether good or bad and had a list in-depth to go back and look at. That’s been a pretty big thing for me.

press1's picture

Almost at the 2 year mark then! It can be quite a testing time this period - You are over the new part of it all and the rose tinted glasses are gone! I remember thinking wow so this is really all it now then, no more mind bending drink/drug scenarios and nothing but clear sobriety for the rest of my life if thats what I want. A lot of people I remember falling by the wayside too, you have come too far though now mate - if you were to relapse now its a big period of time to redo all over again. I think if you were to pick up again now then you will never totally stop. Gotta stick with it bro Good

smurfdude1234567's picture

Hell yeah man! I also completely know it’s a lifelong commitment and will live with that piece of me whether I like it or not for the rest of my life.

This is probably one of the first points in my life I truly don’t think I ever will again. I get no enjoyment from it, and don’t even think about anything close to it anymore.

Inebriated people piss me off nowadays honestly lol.

Addiction is a fiery beast though. It can get ahold of anyone especially when you aren’t even expecting it.

I like the “rose tinted glasses”.

In lots of recovery programs they actually called the first couple months clean the “pink cloud” period. You start turning back into your actual self and that burst of energy mental/physical makes you start going too quickly/thinking you’ve beat it and are ready to go on.

So many people go out wheels to the road at 100mph and burn out within a week of too much on their plates. Then they rubber band back and before they know it are back to the same tolerance and dark place they were a couple months ago. Was hard to get to know and watch some of those people I went to treatment with fall back down. Sadly part of knowing addicts is knowing that some of them will pass and become another statistic though.

BigSexy3's picture

Yes, agreed...I did that once more than a decade ago...never again.

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Pandateston's picture

Very clever. Time-saving approach !

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SeeOhShow's picture

I’ll throw my habits in this ring as well. I take all the compounds I’m running, do all the math of what I want to run weekly, pull that amount from each vial in to a 10ml barrel, shake that rigorously, then divvy that out amongst 1ml barrels then cap them with a luer cap. Then each morning I got in my pantry, grab one of the barrels, a 30g 1” needle, and an alcohol swab, and go pin. Then every Saturday night I repeat the process of loading up (7) 1ml barrels. I have never gone over 1ml per day (so far in my gear journey). Pinning TNE doesn’t count here, because I will do that separately, since I don’t do it every day and I don’t wanna load up that many barrels and have them sit because the plunger does actually start warping from the guaiacol after about 4-5 days…. Yes I have seen that first hand.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Tne Def don't count. Just pre workout. Lol.
So if your doing 3cc a day u poke 3 times?
I was doing that with slin pins pulling out the plunger and putting the oil through the back do i didn't dull the pin drawing. I got tired of doing shots back to back though. Though it does go through the 1ml easy.

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SeeOhShow's picture

I’ve never gone over 1ml a day….yet

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press1's picture

Walk a day in my shoes son - I'll make a man out of you yet.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Oh dam. Well yeah you do do everyday so u can get a good weekly total in 1ml still i guess.
I would still have to do more than one even if i did everyday lmaoooo. SMH

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SeeOhShow's picture

Well you are both bigger and way more experienced than me. Gotta remember I’ve only been doing this gear thing for ~3-4 years.

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Sector9ine's picture

I just load all my oil based compounds into one syringe and do everyday injections to keep the volume down. I use 27g 1/2” Easy Touch syringes for shoulders and ventroglute and a 27g 1” tank/needle for quads. For the tank style syringes I use a 25g needle to draw. The easy touch syringes have enough suction to draw easily with the 27g.

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Dripinder's picture

Best thing to do for that is throw a $20 bills in it and sit on it. Throw a penny in there while you’re at it, make sure you don’t lose your elbow. That little trophy is like a follower you don’t want anyone else to have. Both of them left and right. Keep raking in the laundry.. like Gucci, Hollister , Nautica.. American Eagle, Vans, Nike. Definitely need to keep the 5.11’s on you like pumpkin pie. Got to build it anyways.

Jockstrap's picture

I use same draw and to pin needle. I like to run 1.25 in most muscle groups and 1.5cc in quads glues. So i blend and split my weekly into many spots for ease and comfort

press1's picture

I must say I'm surprised to see the number of people using the same drawing needle and barrel on multiple occasions, I've always used a new one on each injection.

Triggerman83's picture

I like to cocktail in same barrel. recently have mixed TEST suspension & oils/solvents in PWO injections. creates a cool lava lamp effect. all goes in tho!

I have found after plunging into a few vials it does take more pressure to cut tissue. Making me believe it is dulling a bit. with the low cost of luer locks I always change from draw - push syringe.

@EhYouYou don't over think the air removal or the measurement. if there's air in bottom or between compounds flick the barrel to dislodge the air. everyone seen it on TV before!! STAT!!!! over if you don't get the joke, search "multiple draw injection" on YouTube.

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press1's picture

Mate I use to use nothing but Luer Locks for years and believed it was the only sensible way forward to stop the needle harpooning off as if it was on a Tuna ship!!! LMAO In the end I was paying £25 for 100 5ml Bad Boys, once I realised on Luer Slips you simply turned and pushed down hard with the needle simultaneously to effectively 'Lock it on' I never used them again and pay just £8 per 100. Needles £3.80 for 100 BD's

Triggerman83's picture

Yes I completely understand. Fortunately I’m able to get 100 locks syringes for $7.50 ; maybe $20 for 100 BD barrels with syringe. Last order was 200 barrels with 25Ga 1”, 200 (100 are 5/8”) luer locks , 300 100iu easy touch , order was just enough for free shipping. Think total was $101. That’s a solid year supply so I can’t knickle dick it much more lol.

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press1's picture

'Knickle dick it' LMAO Thats one I've never heard before!

Triggerman83's picture

A good friends father passed that along to me long time ago . RIP Jim sr & jr. Gotta give Credit where it’s due!

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smurfdude1234567's picture

I haven’t seen anyone say they use the same needle or barrel more than once for injections?

We are saying using the same needle to draw up a single time- like taking 0.5ml from some TNE and 0.5ml prop from the same company and using the same 23/25g needle.

Obviously switching it out before pinning into yourself.

I think y’all may have misread

Pandateston's picture

That is it. Sorry if I disappointed you all. Smile

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press1's picture

Recoverydemon, Mikey (sorry matey Lmao), Pandateston?

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Yeah what can i say I have an immune system like an animal. If i can tell u storys of shit ive seen. It's not easy to get infections. I've seen people use puddle water by the sidewalk to inject drugs. And they're just fine well idk anymore. So using the same pin and barrel to draw up in not worried about it. I change the tip to pump the shot every time most of the time. Lol.
Nah yeah that's what i meant smurff i use the 23g to draw and the 5cc barrel and I'll use it over a bunch of times i just threw that number out there. But it's Def a bunch of time i don't know exact. Once the barrel starts getting bendy where u hold to push or the plunger ain't sliding good. But i change the 27g to i use to pump about everyone sometimes i might use it twice.
Yeah smurff idky i seen someone say something and i just threw that out there i really didn't even read what the person who posted wrote lmao my fault.
Funny thing is i have a box of 100 23g tip with the 5cc barrel on it, a box of 100 27g tips only and a box of 100 29g slin pins. Lol. Idk old habits die hard i guess.
Oh i just saw why i said that. This dude asked if i switch out between. So i told him no only switch tips. Use same barrel and draw pin multiple times.
Do I'm wrong i did read this post and gave my piece then it was drawn out further by a following question. So what's up doc? Lol

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press1's picture

LMFAO Mikey!!! I can just imagine the scene - 5ml barrel with the markings now fully rubbed off, loaded up with (roughly) 1ml toilet water, 2ml Tren Ace (roughly) and 600 to 800mg (or thereabouts) Test E. Injected with last Wednesdays (now slightly rusting) drawing needle ROFL

Triggerman83's picture

LMFAO

2 (roughly) 1ml toilet water. @mikeyt84L.I..N.Y. not gonna lie reUse same barrel to reconstitute gh/peps, I know how they get bendy and marks wiped clean.... I cringed when I thought about using one for injection lol.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Def... u paint a good picture press.
I add about...5ml of mouthwash too, With .3ml polo red for good measure. Gotta stay fresh bro and cover up that toilet water smell. Unless it has one of them urinal deodorizer in it. Lmao
But the lines are Def rubbed of so these are guesstimates on rough amounts.

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press1's picture

Mouthwash Red Eau De Toilette leaking through the pours at all times of sweating - especially in the gym LMAO Have you become immune to Toilet Bleach by now - or can the GF just not be arsed to use it?! I know I had a worrying moment today when I dropped a large one and it split my arse a bit, it made my ringer bleed quite badly and I also had a splashdown landing in the basin that retorted back at my bleeding ring piece - made me think shit this thing hasn't been bleached in quite a while so I hope I haven't just got an infection LOL

smurfdude1234567's picture

Urinal “deodorizer”?!?

I thought those were little cakes! No wonder it was so salty.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Add in Heavy metal blasting, a haze of smoke at about eye level, and the smell of pussy all around and you’re spot on

smurfdude1234567's picture

A 3 letter agency is going to kidnap you for biomedical engineering studies pretty soon brother hahaha!!

Nah I agree with what you say- the human body is way more resilient than many people think.

I just try to treat mine the absolute best and practice the safest ways due to neglecting myself in the past.

SeeOhShow's picture

Is that before or after they’ve RIF’d everyone? Lol Mikey gonna be in that lab all by himself

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Nah your right though. I probably should. I do use swabs everytime on the vials and sites im pumping though.

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smurfdude1234567's picture

Yeah- I thought we were discussing using the same needle to draw from multiple vials at a single time- not saving it for days and days and using every time LOL!

I think that’s what’s being misunderstood.

Normally okay to use 1 drawing needle to get your compounds especially if the same or similar, but right after it gets thrown away.

They were not saying keep a single drawing needle on a pin and ONLY use that for each draw for weeks- at least I am pretty positive.

Edit: just saw Mikey said 10 times… sigh. Yeah I think that’s the only one who meant it in that context though. I hope hahaha.

Maybe I’m the one who misunderstood…. Mind boggling to me anyone would save a syringe or needle for more than one application, and that may be why

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

This is what happens when your white trash and start doing juice and get away from the ghetto a Lil bit. It's still 2 blocks away tho. Lol
But the old habits die hard. Lol that's why i said that, i don't want to waste a thing and i save shit and do shit like this for no reason. Like i said i have 100 barrel with 23g tips 100 27g tips and 100 29g slin pins.

Funny thing is my girl even says just throw it away you have plenty. I'm like i know but it's fine. Lmaoooo

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Oh and bro when i order i lose my mind thinking these ones might have a sale or bogo tomorrow so maybe i should wait a day plus this one doesn't end until 15 days so i can wait another day. Lmao
I fucked up with the 40off bogo they were just doing an stopped early cuz of that.
My girl would be like just order it otherwise your gonna keep thinking about what you wanna get and trying to figure it out. And i know you don't feel right cuz u don't have any tracking number to check right now. Lmao.
I'll be like i know i don't.
I been ordering allot of Amazon and ebay lately to though. So i been aight. Lol

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press1's picture

Pandateston:

I was just curious; I also use the same needle and occasionally change it. I know some people swap out their drawing needles all the time, which is definitely the more hygienic approach imho.

Yeah Recoverydemon I read wrong LOL

Mac12769's picture

Needles are cheap, infections are not.

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press1's picture

It surely can't be good to be drawing oils into the same barrel multiple times? I know they are in BB and BA but still.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Multiple times? You mean like the situation I explained taking two compounds in same syringe? Or like saving it for the next pin a day later or something?

The first is pretty normal rare to cross contaminate especially if same solvents and carrier oils, but the latter is for heroin addicts and the homeless.

I dont think anyone with half a brain is reusing their syringes or needles more than once lol!

Jockstrap's picture

Ya thats not good. I use 1pin, 1 injection, and into the sharps can