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blood report from Pure Anabolic gear. TEST e, DECA, MAST e, DHB & GH.
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blood report from Pure Anabolic gear. TEST e, DECA, MAST e, DHB & GH.
Its surprising your AST is out mate, have you been running any orals or did you train close to giving blood?
I've heard DHB skewed liver values. I don't have any personal experience and don't know anyone that does either so it all hear say on my part.
Only orals are maintenance meds (meloxcam & allopurinol) along with 10mg cialis daily. I did lift the night before labs were drawn. I had assumed was from script meds.
Yep it will likely be from those 2 medications and lifting recently. Its surprising how much a heavy training session can skew numbers. One time I did deadlifts before going to have bloods drawn and they ran the results whilst I was there - My Creatinine kinase was off the damn scale and they thought I was going into kidney failure Lol Booked me into the CAT clinic asap but it fell by over half by the next day. Really affects my liver results also, 3 days I have found is the ideal time to leave it. Taking B12 and Folic acid works miracles on liver enzymes too.
Appreciate the heads up about b12 and folic. I’ll have to check my daily supplements to be sure that’s included.
Out of the labs the one thing I was curious to others opinions was the e2. I have experienced low e2 in past numerous times. This is first time I can say I think i’m getting to my high side of e2. My libedo is “just normal” not the sex driven goon that’s typical lol, no actual issues , but I realized the drive is lower. I’m curious to research if increasing test will VS adding AI. I understand more test will convert , but don’t know the math on conversion. Not sure if bro science or lab science lol
I get too many benefits from a good level of oestrogen in lifting to want to bring it down, it definitely helps in areas like shoulders etc. When I introduce masteron its only a day or 2 and my shoulders are cracking and clicking and can soon tell the difference in training. Carry a lot of side effects those AI's also. In terms of sex drive, my balls are shot now after years of gear! I have recently discovered cialis too and the wonders of taking 10mg when in the mood, makes you feel like you are 18 again lol
YES! I was not aware of the benefits of estrogen until March of
Last year. I tried to keep at low end as a closet gear user. I am
Much more level now , but was surprised when in relation to my total test my e2 was double the ref range. I am bumping mast a bit more , but can’t imagine will surpress any more than it has already (in ratio mindset) . Lots of info to build from here. I’m calling it a success bc I have confidence finishing full written cycle. The learning is half the fun!
You didn’t experience any other type of sides running your e2 low like that? I find it fascinating how different everyone is with e2 levels. I’m still trying to gauge my system. I’ve had really high e2(113) and I think I need to keep it down because I get a lot psychological sides outside of water retention. I wonder what it’s like on the low of the spectrum.
@Spool ever run winny? Joints dry and achy. Skin dry, lips dry and boner is floppy....thats about the beginning of low e2.
Gotta run bloods so your feelings can be quantified. Horney and hard youre on point. But sides can be slow so it creeps up on ya.
High estro is similar to low. Thats the problem with feeling. If im greazy...im high e2.
Winny makes me like a porn star. Lol.
Dht erect. Boom!
I by no means am going to use any excuses. I do enjoy the REC side of things lol. I have heard two stories with buddies, that while in college did Winny alone and both had severe gyno, both got surgery. never touched anything again. that being said I haven't tried winny either, but porn star mentions make my ears perk a bit. I have been wanting to find an "injectable pre work out" , as it's another I haven't tried. for these next few months and the mild bulk while is 18º outside. I would like to have a little more "aggression" for training. I have a vial of androl in route, any knowledge here from you fellas?
One of the best is a TNE/Adrol mix you can get from a few of the big sources by a well known brand, or just go for TNE itself. A great one but you will have to make it yourself is TNE and DBol together - 70mg TNE & 30mg DBol makes you feel awesome and in turn strong as hell, especially on big CNS taxing exercises like squats and deads. Makes them a LOT easier too.
I wonder why nobody makes that blend. That would be one of most euphoric feeling blends you could probably get. I would rather have that than with the adrol. I'm editing this. I just thought u think it would be the same as getting inject dbol and tne or test suspension and mixing them?
I haven’t run winny yet. I’m nervous about trying other stuff at this point. I keep running into this uneasy feeling over time and still don’t know the remedy. Last time I did bloods it was high e2 but I couldn’t “fix” the problem other than ride it out. You basically mentioned exactly what I have read that the sides are the same at the top and bottom of the spectrum. How you decipher that is knowing yourself personally.
Uneasy and high e2....yes, thats a side effect. Where was your ai? Ride it out is like wanting boobies and stress. Bloods are king.
I got Aro, Nolv, Clom, HcG and others on hand. I took 25mg of Aro yesterday but didn’t notice a difference. I’m unsure of what to take for Ai. Im not sure how they all work and what exact protocol to do. So much different info out there.
You should just stop.
@Spool @Triggerman83 can you imagine how women feel? I mean that pretty much explains how they can be crazyy than a mofo! Hormones are very powerful especially when it comes to our emotional state. Tell u a lil secret, when I see a woman acting a damn fool I just think about what she must be somewhat experiencing hormone wise. It's crazy man
I was literally thinking this exact thing the other day. I’m not sure exactly what is going on causing my issue, but I know it indicates the spectrum that woman experience on a daily basis. And it’s f**king crazy. I can’t imagine having to live like that full time because I can barely deal with it for a couple days.
Definitely something to think about. Crazy ass women!
Yup, still love them for it though.
I was always on edge and was harder to “leave shit alone” , best way I can explain it. Maybe could feel little extra crunchy in knees and shoulders, but I didn’t link it then. I have labs in my laptop from last December I’ll share them when I’m home.
I’d be interested in seeing those labs. You kind of described what I am experiencing. “On edge” is a good descriptor but I would lean towards anxious, uneasy, can’t relax. But last time I had it, e2 was high and there was a host of other sides, this time it is just this feeling that is lingering. Kind of sucks. Tried some Ai but I can’t tell if it is helping. I don’t know exactly which direction to go.
For sure I find this too, when my oestrogen has been low compared to a high test you can feel anxious and edgy. The oestrogen makes you feel more relaxed and happy I think.
Yeah man I suffered low e2 a few times and it definitely affected my joints. I gotta have that cushion for the joints in order to mess with the heavy ass iron! Not only that but estro is just needed overall for well-being and growth. Also I glared at your bloods and saw that you have a good IGF number for not taking GH, or did I not see GH? Thanks for posting. @Triggerman83
total of 6iu daily. 4IU evening 2IU Morning. (test morning I skipped injections) so that is trough of testosterone also. I wast upset at labs at all. responding well, body feels well Labs are decent. going to bump MAST & DHB as written and finish cycle in FEB
3 pins a week of test with halflife of 5 days. Theres no trough there. A trough would be end of life or roughly after day 10.
Yes I understand this also. I had always just used the logic of testing on the “low” .
a trough would be way before day 10 lol. Just so u know...Keep doing you man
I see what the Jocks saying but by day 10 you're at a deep trough. Nah just depends. We all somewhat react differently.. regardless of shot method yes there will always be dips. It's just the depth of the dip. That's what it comes down to basically. Good luck trigg.
No you are correct trigger. No matter how often you dose it’s still a sinusoidal curve. All that changes is the amplitude. The only mathematical way to not have a trough is a direct linear relationship with increasing test levels indefinitely. You did test at your “lowest” point. It’s just more frequent injections means your lowest and highest are closer. Keep doing your thing
With Test E it peaks at the 24hr mark, then simply after that the hormone level is on the decline. This is why even though its a long ester - it works best injected 3 times per week or EOD. Twice per week and you are getting big dips, I know you already know this matey but I just feel like saying it because I can
Lmfao
I did not know that tidbit.
This is why you will often hear guys who use Test E or Cyp for TRT injections once every 7 to 10 days, that after 7 days they really begin to feel like shit and they need an injection. Then they often change to splitting it up twice every 7 days. Or even better will slin pin in small amounts more frequently.
Yes i have heard guys pinning once a week with slow esters. Never knew anyone that did so hadn’t heard the down side.
Y’all use hours and days over there in the metric system?! Thought you’d say in a fortnight or some shit
I speak the Queens English Bro!!!
Ok all good man. Yeah like I said when u bump up just be on the lookout for e2 and shbg. Can affect folks differently that's all. I remember Sparta saying mast killed his estro, but another guy said mast didn't really affect his e2. Primo did me dirty lol. Find what works for you and grow! Good luck my man
Exactly buddy - trying things out for yourself and experiencing the results you get is the best way to do things, it instils the best protocols in your routine rather than someone simply telling you here is what you do. Its like in the early years when guys told me to get on BP meds, I never realised why they were saying this really and they more they told me to do it the less I wanted to!! Lol Fast forward to getting headaches all the time at the end of the day and wondering why training seems so much harder than it use to and voila - you try BP meds out and experience what they were talking about and NEVER go without again. Or maybe its because I have to always find out the hard way Lol
yes, I know exactly what you mean "more they say/push , the less I want". I too have always learned best & most the hard way lol
Finding out the hard way is half the fun isn’t it? I know it is my go to move on many occasions.
We learn by our mistakes bro, apart from when it comes to women it seems Lmao
With women I think it’s different, there is no shutting off the attraction to the female form. Nothing can stop it, I’ve tried everything. And because of that, as men, we are going to keep playing the game because that is literally what we are wired to do. It’s kind of like insanity in a way, ya know?
'Insanity is to keep doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result' - You know you are gonna get burnt in the end more than likely LOL
This is the story of life for us. I am walking right down that road again even though I know what’s at the end of it.
I think the trick with relationships is not taking it all too seriously, see it as a day at a time and a fun experience. Don't look at the big long road and assume you will be together forever, try not to take everything to heart so much. I have been guilty of all this in the past and it quickly begins ruining things - and if it does fail don't take it personally, just remember the same reasons you are splitting up is the same reasons millions of others do every day in the world. Then move on and don't dwell on things because it isn't worth it.
Yup. That’s exactly where I’m at, just take it easy. Day at a time, no pressure, no expectations. You just have to enjoy it for what it is while you can. That seems to be the best policy in this current world we are in.
absolutely, best to find a way &just smile!