Subcutaneous injections, swelling PIP
I'm trying another well know source's Test E 250 and this stuff has me swelling up at every injection site. I've been pinning my delts now for the last 5 days (shallow IM) so the picture here shows how red and swollen I am after 5 days since the last daily subcutaneous injection. It seems as if all the oil migrated to one spot and is angry af.
It's doing a bit better in the delt but still leaves my shoulder sore. Am I just a softie? My doc prescribed pharma Test at 200 mg/ml doesn't do this to me.
I know this will resolve in a few more days I just want to find some good Test E for daily subq that doesn't fuk me up. I posted a few weeks back a similar issue trying sustanon 350 and quickly realized that wasn't suitable for my use case.
I'm using u-100 1/2 inch 28g insulin syringes, daily subcutaneous injections
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Honestly that's a really low spot to be injecting your glutes, I would stay higher up, more around your ventroglute area. There are some serious nerves as well as the superior gluteal artery that is right there where you injected. That run through that mid section of your glutes and if you ever hit one I can promise you you'll make sure you never inject that low again. And you will if you keep injecting that low in your glute. Just pin 2x ew IM if subQ isn't working for you bro, it's not a big deal. It really makes no difference
I used to lump pretty bad every sub-q test injection I did. Doing IM has had little to no swelling unless I just hit a smaller muscle.
I ran a lot of experiments on myself as far as IM, shallow IM, and Sub-q injections go. There are pros and cons to each. But if you're chasing just a number and having consistent levels, I'm being honest here. The numbers are kind of negligible. I now just stick to IM. I have way less issues and I don't have to rotate as much injection sites. The problem with shallow IM and Sub-q are is you risk getting an abscess. Everyone is different as well. Not everyone's skin has the same thickness and sub-q fat. So the amount you inject will vary from person to person. Shallow IM with insulin needles i wouldn't go more than half a CC and you have to inject slow. Also be fairly lean especially in the delts area. That shit will definitely leak out if you inject too fast. You may have to go 1/4 CC in multiple areas. Same goes for Sub-q, you might just be injecting too much oil in that area. Bring it down to 1/4 CC and you'll have to pick multiple areas. My problem with sub-q is and frequent injection is my skin and underlying tissue didn't have enough time to heal and it would eventually get sore and swell. I kind of have bitch ass skin, so now, just strict IM for me.
How much are you injecting subq?
You need to keep it minimal, 13-20IU, any more and you risk chance of a sterile abscess. If you're trying to pop 1/2ml in there, you're likely going to get a pocket that you'll need to drain. What I see there looks like the beginning of an abscess, what I would do is pop some benedryl and try to manually rub that out to break up the liquid, You can use an old deodorant ball and push it hard, you should feel the bump in there.
I only tagged you to make sure you saw the picture
I'm doing 325mg per week of test and 325mg per week of primo. Comes out to 42 units on the insulin pin daily, so close to 1/2 cc. This hadn't been a problem until the last two ugl test products I experimented with.
I appreciate this advice. I've been massaging the areas. It's slowly getting better but it's still a bit painful
that's still in the upper amounts. I would lower the volume
I injected .3ml of primo 200 yesterday sub q in my belly and have no lumps or pain at all today. I was just doing it as an experiment. That bruising looks horrible. I’ve not heard of sub q in the butt cheek before
Update on this. No pain but did end up with a lump for a week. Not that bad but thought it was worth updating my previous comment
Thx for updating. The redness and swelling subsided for me as well, same with the lump though - it's there for about a week. I've now started injecting my test and primo separately rather than drawing into the same pin. At least for now that's been working.
anvil3ml? FYI subq depot can only hold 1ml. And another FYI continuous sudq to the stomach will result in a firming of that area over time of injecting oil there. Like you feel hard areas under your skin. But just saying is all, carry on.
0.3ml bud not 3ml
.3 is the absolute max I'd go. You'll get bruising from primo for sure, it does the same in the muscle, just feels like a dull ache there.
Honestly it hurt more when I injected the same labs test 300. Maybe I just got lucky
anvilLol I'm special... disregard my previous stupidity.
No bother buddy, I should have added a 0 to make it more obvious
I've had issues from some suppliers by going Sub-Q. Although none of the injections ever looked that bad.
You're more than welcome to send me a friend request and message and I can let you know the very few and far between brands that I do not get a reaction from.
Although I have never tried subq in the butt cheek
Thumb on hip bone and stretch middle finger directly across as far as you can, that’s where your spot should be.
They said,,, way too low bro
Also what lab are you using, are you sanitizing good?
Go about 1” below your waist band line. Top of the glute. Stay higher on the delts also. I rarely do quads but when I do it’s about halfway down on the side.
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87 never got a rash or even pip from.your gear that oil you use smooth as can be no.problems sucking it up either. is it true that especially if your putting like 2 ccs in each glute the more oil the more chance it'll become reddish?
Too low brother. Split dat ass in 4 and hit the upper right.IM only way to go. If your worried about scar tissue use 27 gauge, takes a tad longer to pin but I'm a poone with needles and have rotated right and left glute for a 3 plus years straight TRT with cycles in between and all has been good thus far.
Why are you pinning sub q and not IM?
I've been doing daily subq for my trt since I started 2 years ago. It's for the consistent levels and subq as to not create scar tissue
I have been pinning glutes and have only ever pinned glutes for around 8 years never had one issue but I also only pin intramuscular never had an issue. As alot of guys have said you have pinned to Low but also I wouldn't go sub q on glutes anyway. Way to much fatty tissue where the oil will probably gather up and not dispurse. If i was you and this keeps occurring just go IM In my opinion
Nothing better than looking at a hairy arse. Sitting must suck. This is why I do my theighs.
I found that id get a red, irritated lump every third or fourth sub q injection even with the 200mg test c I get from my compounding pharmacy. I couldn't figure out what was different about those pins. I went daily IM for my trt, and cycles, and never looked back. You really limit yourself with locations doing subq as you really need to be able to pinch the spot you want to inject with one hand then operate the pin with the other hand. I wouldn't be trying my delt or glute subq. I would go for my lower belly and quads only.
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Why would you do sub q in the booty?? I’ve never seen someone sub q dead center of the ass. It’s either a little higher for IM or stomach or love handle for sub q. You can’t properly do a sub q injection in that location unless you don’t have lats. How do you get both hands there to pinch the skin???
I pin my glutes all the time but higher up. I think you are hitting the wrong spot
From the pic shown, try it a few inches higher. If you still get pain it's the gear and not you.
If you have any trt prescribed to you remaining, cut it 50/50.
But write a review once you have eliminated other possibilities and you realise it's the gear and not you.
Or just try pinning IM the way it was made to be used. This will likely be pip free.
I was gonna make a post on it the other day but I just got prescribed this cream called Mupirocin 2% and It’s for aftercare of lanced wounds but can also be used as like a preventative medicine if used in small doses (~1/3rd, or less, of minimum prescribed dosage)
It does have some minor downfalls and why I wanted to write a full thread on it but maybe look into seeing if you can get a few tubes of that prescribed from this infection, if it needs a lancing, then stretch those out for other pinning days.
Have you dealt with infections enough to know it’s if it’s leaning benign or antibiotics/lancing?
I haven't had any infections thus far, thank goodness. The only other time I had a similar issue it eventually just resolved itself.
Thank you gents
You injected in wrong spot. Probably just dispersed into all the fat. Way too low and into straight fat.
https://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Do this, no sub q
Daily?? Its trt or cycle? Dont cycle subq. Stab that pin. 25 x 1. That assss pic isnt muscle area either
Yep, dally subq TRT
Thats not trt.....
Pin it IM injections … read your bottle of test prescribed from your doc … IM INJECTIONS stop trying all this new protocol shit and stick with what has worked for years from these guys …. Shoot your other cheek and use a 23/25g 1.5” pin and see what happens I guarantee not this bullshit
Better yet take a massage gun and pound it LOL
You need to smack it and say good girl before you inject.
Also he is correct, need to redo your injection spot.
I knew I was missing something. Gotta get spicy with it, got it ;)
anvilBecause that isn't where you inject. VG is higher and way more towards the hip.
I had to move sites because up there was swollen too. This is after 5 days. Like I'd mentioned, seems as if all the oil migrated to one spot after a few days. Is that even a thing?
I definitely put nearly half a cc the spot shown but the swelling seems disproportionate. Thx sir
anvilIts the oil and blood pooling yes. While I am all for shallow IM shots it won't work in that spot and is just gonna hurt. Do not shoot the other cheek like this, it is too low. I don't get pip from anything ever but I have hit bad spots. The cheek is to thick for shallow IM. Rotate delts, quads for the brave, lats are painless if you can reach yours, even triceps with slin pin are a breeze.
Play with it and move around. But 100% double check that ass.
I had the worst pip from an injection a few weeks back on my quad. Same oils I was using and i am super clean. I got swollen and felt like the oil moved towards more the front of my quad. Location was an inch from were i usually pin.
I think sometimes its shot placement. Or maybe its too shallow and more by the nerve endings?
Could also be the oil. Certain sellers here have oils to dilute them more.