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-2 will 10-20mg Tren E/wk be enough to shut down my testicles

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have this idea about micro-dosing Tren E to save money since it is supposedly 5x stronger than testosterone

Because I am very concerned about shrinking my balls and permanently shutting down my natural T production, I have only taken the drugs anastrozole and clomid so far.

Yesterday I ordered my first exogenous AAS, mesterolone, which I have read doesn't impact the testicles as harshly as other AAS, at first I was suspicious about this theory and thought it might be a silly myth.. but I found a scientific article that confirms that mesterolone does not shut down LH and FSH compared to many other anabolic drugs.

https://ibb.co/C17trYy

I only ordered 1 pill called PCT which contains =

25mg clomiphene

10mg tamoxifen

15mg mesterolone

3.75mg tadalafil

the only thing stopping me from buying 25mg mesterolone pills is the price so I have theorized that I might be able to keep my testicles completely intact while microdosing cheap tren E at 20mg per week in tandem with the clomid and tamoxifen.

could I just take 20mg tren E/wk indefinitely if taken together with clomid and tamoxifen?

this is far more economical

or would I need to take it in cycles to avoid shrinking my balls?

CouricMass's picture

Hey man, just from an outside perspective cause I actually don’t know enough about AAS’s to comment on these parts of your posts myself being so new, but each post you’ve made is increasingly less of a question and more statement in the bodies of your posts that are leading to reasons on why your use of tren is going to be ok.

Just an observation but if you feel confident enough and have researched these topics to the point where no matter what responses you get from varying degrees of expertise that you’re just going to do what you’re asking advice on, why not just do it and come back with a “update on my low test, high tren post” in a month or so? Cause what you’re doing leads people to think you’re trolling them, or worse just ignoring first hand information given by people who’ve used the compounds you’ve listed above.

Have a good one man.

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robb's picture

This is some dumb shit. Economics, wtf. If you can't afford gear then how are you going to eat properly?
I'd just wait until you're in a better financial position. This is a first for me hearing about scrimping and scrapping to get next to no gear.
Whats the point, I'd happily give you a couple of vials if I knew you personally.
If this isn't troll shit you should just wait or wait till you have saved enough to do this thing right.
In the early year's here you'd of got blitzed then probably banned for such nonsense. Bit more easy going these days fortunately for you.

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Big Tone36's picture

Inject 3cc of Air daily........ That should do the trick. It'll keep the balls inflated

Ccacc's picture

Nice and puffy, that’s what google said to do also

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primordial_soup's picture

if i take 100 IU of hCG daily, will that prevent testicular shrinkage or just make it less severe?how much shrinkage would you get? and is 100 IU daily sufficient dose

primordial_soup's picture

because the ladies like a man with huevos ya know?

im only 25 and the science says my balls will continue to grow into my 30s

https://radiology-universe.org/calculator/testicular-volume/calculator.php

Big Tone36's picture

My suggestion of shooting 3cc of Air will definitely give him peak ball size and beyond.

Big Tone36's picture

Women can give a fuck about Ball size. It's about dick size and knowing how to fuck is what they care about. Now if your talking about "balls" like in terms of mental, physical toughness or fortitude, testicles size doesn't matter either. You can have the biggest sack in the world but still be a pussy

PhillyMelvin_Smelvin's picture

Your better off micro dosing crystal meth if u don’t want to shut down your balls that just recently dropped….

primordial_soup's picture

https://radiology-universe.org/calculator/testicular-volume/calculator.php

it would be a shame to shut them down now, they are still growing

(balls keep growing in size into your 30s)

Drexyl's picture

Lol

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Pumped_'s picture

WHAT?! WHAT!? and WHAT?!

Jockstrap's picture

It will shut you down. Microdosing long esters is a farce for junkies and pin freaks.

Badgoat1's picture

Mesterolone is proviron and it will shut you down. I used almost the exact same pct pill once and it was a waste of money ended up buying another round of pct items and felt alot better. But it sounds like you really shouldn't be doing anything at all except getting your diet right and working out hard

primordial_soup's picture

Just found a study confirming the myth that mesterolone binds to SHBG and increases free testosterone. it was shown to increase free testosterone in aging men who took 50mg per day of mesterolone on its own. mesterolone would work better in tandem with the clomid and tamoxifen to boost free testosterone

chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://acikerisim.medipol.edu.tr/xmlui/bitstream/handle/20.500.12511/77...

Skinnyboy63's picture

How old are you?
This sounds like a kid talking lol

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primordial_soup's picture

25 yrs im thinking I can do a cycle where I take the clomid-tamoxifen mix + Tren E 10mg/wk, then switch out the Tren for HcG every once in a while.

i have read that clomid 50mg 3 times a week can double LH
https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.10...

I know this probably won't impact my fertility since there are studies where test subjects were given tamoxifen + testosterone U to improve sperm.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14556812/

my natural testosterone levels were at 790,800, then 911, so I only need a little boost to match the average person taking 150 test E/wk

23Sparta's picture

”could I just take 20mg tren E/wk indefinitely if taken together with clomid and tamoxifen?“

Congratulations, I’m speechless

Ccacc's picture

Learn something new around here every day…

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Justonemorerep's picture

Blood work!

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Chad P's picture

Man I thought my brother (who doesnt consistently train) coming over and telling me he upped his self prescribed trt dose from 200mg wk to 300 e4d on the advice of nobody but because other ppl take that high of dosage was the dumbest thing I would hear this week. Congrats on the +1.

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press1's picture

SOOOO many things wrong with this post.

So your plan is just to run 20mg Tren E every week as this will effectively act like 100mg of Testosterone I assume is your thinking here? Do you even know what it feels like to run Trenbolone, let alone by itself?

primordial_soup's picture

My new plan is to use Tren to trick my endocrinologist who I haven't seen yet into thinking I have hypogonadism, then I can use this diagnosis of hypogonadism to get prescriptions for hCG, which is likely much cheaper in pharmacies compared to the black market

Drexyl's picture

Don’t ever “trick” a physician. That’s a great way to get yourself in some serious medical trouble.

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jshort's picture

I've never used the "PCT all in one" pills, but I haven't really heard anything good about them. I prefer to buy individual pct substances so I can dose accordingly.

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sandman3698's picture

Sounds like steroids arent for you.

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Tits and Mass's picture

What are you end goals? Ultimately you're injecting a very harsh compound that will shut you down regardless, you're going to screw up your test levels and probably run into a heap of issues. If you're that worried, just do proper dosages, use HCG to keep your balls, do a proper pct. While it may seem a good idea to you, you will be lowering your T levels for no good reason

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SeeOhShow's picture

If you can’t even afford 25mg proviron pills, then that means you definitely can’t afford the requisite bloodwork to make sure what you’re doing is safe, shutting you down, etc. You shouldn’t be looking into AAS right now.

primordial_soup's picture

Actually, my parents have agreed to pay for me to see an endocrinologist as well as other doctors like a cardiologist and neurologist; there doesn't seem to be any dedicated TRT doctors in the country where I live unlike in the USA where you can go to a dedicated clinic for TRT.

If I were to take Tren in the months prior to seeing the endocrinologist, then it would appear like I had severe hypogonadism on my initial bloodwork and I could use that to acquire prescriptions.

I'm currently using my disability welfare check to buy stuff with bitcoin, I got SSDI due to my heart disease "dysautonomia/POTS"

Drexyl's picture

Troll post right?

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SeeOhShow's picture

You shouldn’t be running gear.

Skinnyboy63's picture

He can't afford it because his weekly allowance won't let him lol jk

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primordial_soup's picture

I'm currently using my disability welfare check to buy stuff with bitcoin, I got SSDI due to my heart disease "dysautonomia/POTS".

if I take Tren prior to seeing the endocrinologist, then I can trick him/her into thinking I have hypogonadism.