posted Tue, 06/11/2024 - 16:45
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Good idea to run Test cyp, Nandrolone (Deca) and Metenolone (Primo) at the same time?
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Greetings, I'm on a TRT+ regimen of test cyp and nandrolone at the moment. Excited to try the new primo order I just received and wondering if I should run them all together or drop the nandrolone in favor of the primo. I also have some oxandrolone on the way so that will come into play shortly. My original plan was to continue with my current protocol and add in the oxandrolone for 4 months and drop nandrolone and oxandrolone and just run test primo to finish out the year. Advice/experience is welcome.
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AK80Looks fine to me. The Anavar will just give you more strength and help keep bloat down. Make sure the amount of Primo you take acts as an AI, but not too much of an AI that will crash your E2. If the NPP is just for joint health, you shouldn't need any cabergoline (dostinex) under 200mg per week. As always, split your pinning up into 3 times per week to keep your blood levels stable and prevent any side effects.
That's a pretty common cycle. Since you're adding on to your docs stuff you're going to need to get private blood work done to make sure everything is good so far as what's going on inside you're body.
Also 4 months of anavar is asking for you to have issues. Most people will tell you not to push an oral past 6-8 weeks. It can be quite hard on your organs.
Thank you for the advice. I'm seeing a naturopathic doc, not via insurance so I can be honest with him. I'm planning on 3-4 months on the anavar at 5 mg 2X daily (dissolving under the tongue) and running bloods halfway through to check liver and kidney parameters. It's funny, he actually wrote an rx for the anavar but it was crazy expensive from the compound pharmacy so I decided to go ugl.
I'm actually just starting a cycle of test c, deca and primo. Though at doses a fair bit higher than what you're doing. These 3 drugs in combination hit all 3 different pathways steroids can use. You've got your test, 19 nor and dht derivative. There are other compounds you can swap in in place of deca and primo as well.
Thanks for this. I think you nailed my question, much appreciated. Curious, what dosage are you running and how many cycles have you ran approximately? I've been perusing a minimum effective dose strategy as I'm newish - about 1.5 years now on a TRT regime and seeking to now add in a bit extra.
This is my 5th cycle. In order i've done 350 test c for 12 weeks, 500 test c for 12 weeks, 350 test c/150 deca/50mg proviron for 12 weeks, 350 test c/350 deca/600 primo/50mg proviron for 12 weeks and now i'm doing the last one again. There were some questions about the legitimacy of the primo last time so i got some from another vendor and am trying again.
Your approach is the right one for long term health. Most people really don't need to be doing grams and grams of gear per week to get the kind of physique most of us would be happy with. Mild to moderate gear along with consistent training, diet and sleep will get most of us who aren't looking to turn pro where we want to go even if it isn't quite as fast as we'd like to get there.
It often surprises me when people ask members 'what we think they should do?'. When you bought these products you must have researched and already known what they are ideally used for in terms of bulking or cutting, gaining strength, lean bulking etc - you can't of just bought them blindly hoping for the best?? So with that in mind you must of had an idea of what you were wanting to achieve from the cycle - Such as bulking up/gaining strength or cutting and leaning out. Given the fact you haven't told us what you are wanting to do with this cycle how would we know if you should run all of these different compounds together?
That's fair. My goal is to continue building muscle and lean out a bit over the next few months (lean bulking). I'm not running any crazy dosages here, 200 test and 100 deca daily micro dosing subq. My question is really around the suitability of running deca alongside primo. I ordered the primo as an experiment to see if I could bring down my estrogen levels without the need for an AI.
Is the Deca in there to help your joints? At 100mg per week I can't see it doing much else thats all. Also got to think about how heavily weighted that ester is Vs something like NPP.
Yep, deca is in there for the joints. Up until the primo and oxandrolone order this has all been through my naturopathic doc from the compound pharmacy. I honestly haven't experienced much joint cushioning and I've been running it since January. Maybe the dose is too low.
I would definitely say the dose is too low mate for either joint relief or any kind of muscle building. A better dose to get something from it would be starting at 300mg/wk. Part of the way in which Nandrolone works is from the prolactin that it creates, this is one of the best hormones there is for joint pain relief and lubrication. Although you don't want the figure to be high you do want to have it present, same as estrogen. In regards to your estrogen level, have you seen this is already high in your bloodwork as generally it shouldn't be on 200mg Test per week?
Appreciate the insight about the nandrolone method of action, that's interesting. Unfortunately, in all my bloodwork the doc never measured prolactin so I'm shooting blind. Estrogen is rather high I think, 79.7 pg/ml on 200 test and 100 deca daily micro dosing subq. Test is at 1385 ng/dl for reference. That's was using DIM. Added in Calcium D-glucarate since those latest readings as well.
Your estro increases when your test increases so when you say "high" do you just mean it flags red on your bloodwork or is it "high" causing you negative symptoms? If i can maintain a 79pg/ml and keep it there id be a happy camper.
I'm referring to the estrogen being high on the test, no gyno or nip sensitivity. However, I've been tired all the time. That's been the story of my TRT journey thus far. Feeling good and strong but frequently tired, hoping getting the estrogen down is the key.
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anvilChase said this weekend his is 120. But he just started taking AI. For reference he said his test was 6 or 7 k.
I would take one too at 120, regardless if I felt symptoms or not
Before long, he's starting the Road to 20k. Lol. I very much look forward to watching that journey
anvilI heard him say that but, I thought he said past tense but I wasn't sure. Definitely look forward to that.