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You guys are going to fucking kill me, sorry... Please don't hang me up by my nuts and beat me to a bloody pulp... here we go

Me:
41 years old
5'6"
145-150 lbs
Lean 13%BF according to Navy tables. Don't actually know my real BF%. I'm very lean throughout my arms, chest, thighs, have a little belly fat, but can kinda see my abs (my almost abs hahahaha fuck)

My background:
Never done any AAS
Lifting very consistently for 4 years
3-5 days/week for 1-2 hours
I do 4x10's with enough weight to fail
No cardio ever. Fuck that shit. (I do keep my rests short while lifting, so my heart rate gets elevated for at least 30-45 minutes each time I lift...)
Diet good/healthy--, but I don't track cals/macros. Lots of protein. Whole grains only. I probably need to eat more... I'll definitely need to eat more on this shit

Goals:
Not competitive bodybuilding or physique or anything like that. DEFINITELY interested in gaining mass, but doesn't have to be anything crazy. I just want a little more size and a BAD ASS 6PACK!

What I think I want to do:
12 week test-only cycle. 500? mg/week.
KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE BECAUSE I AM FUCKING STUPID

What I currently have:
3 vials (10mL) of test C (250mg/mL)
Box of 100- 3mL syringes 1.5 inch 23ga

What I suppose I should get before starting:
AI
PCT

QUESTIONS:
1. Just throw out any advice, don't be a dick
2. Start my cycle now (summer) or do more of a fall or winter bulk? This is shirt off season, so I'm still trying to get my abs to come in. Will doing a cycle fuck that up or help? If I was going for maximum bodybuilder muscle gains, then I would definitely do a fall bulk cycle and eat like fucking idiot, but that's not really what I want. I just want to get jacked and ripped on my tiny little 5'6" frame that doesn't like to gain mass
3. Can I draw and pin with the same 23ga needle?
4. Can't I just taper my test at the end rather than using a PCT?
5. I'm a small guy. Shouldn't I do less than 500 mg/week?
6. Do I really have to pin twice per week? Can't I just do it once per week? Remember, I'm trying to keep this super simple. Also not afraid of needles over here, and don't care about the cost of more syringes
7. What diagnostics should I have run?
8. Ugh...

76's picture

Just wait, eat, lift and learn. Back when I first started running gear I spent a full 2 years fan-boying over anything bodybuilding related, articles and forums just soaking up all I could.
It started as a fascination of what the human body could achieve and turned into a passion. The wait was mostly due to reluctance to alter my natural homeostasis and cause permanent damage, or even temporary damage really, which I managed to do as well...
Dont use steroids unless you've plateaued and are willing to sacrifice some significant comfort in the future. Weekly pins for trt sounds like its nothing, but man...after years of it you realize you've become a slave to the stuff...
There are alternatives to injections for trt but I just don't feel the same, creams suck ass..

ONESICK's picture

Dude, no....look train for the next few months plus naturally. EAT A FUCK TON. Not shit food but good amount of protein 250g minimum every day, moderate carbs and fats. You will gain without gear. While you train do a lot more research. Grab a pen and paper, take notes. A plethora of information here.

ABC123EasyE's picture

Aw, you're the best @ONESICK! Good advice. Thanks for not immediately going to the crush-your-sole type of reply. I've always focused on my training routine, but not so much my diet. I'll save my shit for a secret winter bulk (flannels hide everything!) So in the mean time I need to gather the rest of my shit, e.g. AI and PCT. You were talking about drawing and pinning with the same needle. What do you think about 23ga? I'll work on the diet...

ONESICK's picture

Diet and training are number one, hand in hand. Once you get those two things on point and your knowledge is up to par, then gear. Get all your ducks in a row before the gear always have AI and PCT on hand as you may need it. 23g will do fine. Though I think 1-1/2" is overkill. 23g border line harpoon lol. I use nothing bigger than 25g 1" pins. Those are pretty much perfect. If I'm really lean I go for 27g 1/2" pins, only and only if you plan on pinning .5ml or less and nothing more than that or you'll most likely leak out. Just continue to read.

ABC123EasyE's picture

Good needle talk thanks

Greg's picture

The fact that you are asking questions 3 through 8 indicates you need to learn way more before you start if you want to have a successful cycle... which answers question two. You should wait.
For now, learn about diet, make sure you have created a good, disciplined, exercise routine. Learn about half-life's, Get a blood test before you start to tell you what your T levels are. This will be your natural baseline.

ABC123EasyE's picture

Thanks! What would you say are the essentials to be included in a diagnostic? T obviously. Would I be looking for a comprehensive health profile or would a basic health profile suffice? I guess I need to figure out which diagnostics from quest or LabCorp would include estrogen...

Makwa's picture

You are 145 lbs, I'll give you 150 on a good day. That means you are not eating. Steroids don't make up for a shitty diet. You can put on an easy 20lbs without any drugs.

Drexyl's picture

And keep his balls…

ABC123EasyE's picture

Hahahahaha! Yes!

Badgoat1's picture

You didn't mention how much you eat or training style used. You can take all the drugs you want but without food nothing happens. But if you're determined to do it anyway. Have your Ai on hand and get bloods at 6 and 10 weeks especially in your first cycle to check test and estrogen levels. Have pct on hand in case you have to abort the cycle. 12 weeks 500mg per week pin Sunday and Wednesday works great for me.
Get a 2nd box of just needles i like 25 gauge 1.5 inch. Draw with your 23 and inject with your 25. Pinning with the same needle you draw with hurts and can cause infection sometimes. So always pin with a fresh needle. I always shower before injection. Just as.a secondary precaution. Use 2 alcohol wipes to clean again let fully dry. Pin then clean again. Be safe learn side effects to watch for and be nice to the vets around here they can really help with things. Especially rusty and makwa.

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ABC123EasyE's picture

Ok, I'll play nice. Thanks! I need to track my diet... I have no idea how many cals I eat. Anyway, training routine is a 5 day split:
Mon- deadlift (5x6), pullups (4x8), 3 other rows or pulls (4x10)
Tues- push 3 presses, 3 flys (~4x10)
Wed- legs squat (4x6), rdl (4x12), press (3x12), curl (4x10), extension (4x10), thigh master, calf raises
Thurs- shoulders press, lateral raise, reverse fly, hammer raise, shrug (4x10)
Fri- arms 3 curls, 3 extensions (4x10)
Sat, Sun- cry to myself as I recover

ONESICK's picture

I draw and pin with same needle. In all the years i've done gear not once had an issue as long as you keep everything sterile.

Badgoat1's picture

You're tougher than me man. The few times I've been forced to draw.and pin with the same needle feels like I have to force it in and always hurts a few days after. Never had an infection myself but have read stories.

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ONESICK's picture

You just gotta jab quick, straight to the point (no pun intended). Don't even think about it and no hesitation. I barely even feel it. It's the breaking of the skin that hurts the most but after that few seconds nothing. I dunno I guess I rarely ever get any type of PIP.

76's picture

OH rusty you missed his first "question"
1. Just throw out any advice, don't be a dick

Id give him props for being open to not jumping in over his head. Most definitely its a "wait and learn" situation we have here.

SIERRA996's picture

You know what site you're on yeah?

ABC123EasyE's picture

You want my test I just bought?

DeeMan's picture

Lol

ABC123EasyE's picture

Thanks @Rustyhooker!

alekaras's picture

Lmao

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