I’ll be more blunt. It’s a steroid that a bunch of these no nothing knuckle heads hyped up that are looking for a miracle instead of hard work. Test e/c/p, tren a, deca, Winstrol, anadrol, your AEs and mast p. I’ll take those against anyone with an unlimited supply of DHB, MENT, TREN H, and these dumbass blends. It’s stupidity in a bottle my friend. When the remaining bit sales out, I’ll never bring it back
I agree with everything you said with the exception of the tren hex. This compound in 100mg preparation is good, its similar to tren E which one would probably never feel a difference but still a good compound. All that other shit is exactly that. The compounds that been around and worked 10,20,30,40 years ago still work great. People should step up and learn how to train and eat period.
Yea I figured that, that's what i said to Mr. Dwayne below it's way more expensive of a compound but same end results, basically.
Your are right though it's not worth carrying, all that other shit DHB, BOLD CYP, MENT is worthless. It's like the supplement industry, every year there's a new thing that's supposed to be superior to the one from 2 year before but it's all nonsense. Those compounds aren't necessarily "new" they just didn't make it past the trials. Straight testosterone was simply better. They may have higher anabolic rating on paper but that doesn't translate to build more muscle in real life. DHB is toxic and hurts like a mfkr and it's not "trens little brother or cousin or any of that" it's a metabolite of EQ which already builds muscle great as it is.
Lmfao....Mr. Dwayne huh? Thx for clarifying. But seriously we all need to make a separate discussion on these newer, rejected compounds. And yes folks they are rejects. All have been around awhile but alot of folks are just now hearing about them like u stated above. I think I remember seeing a dhb study vs test prop and I think u mentioned this too. I think test p showed more anabolism so don't know where dhb 2x anabolic came from. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways just my thought, no biggie
To me it sounded like he was comparing the types of people , not necessarily the drugs . People who make more gains from a test only cycle vs people who have 100 bottles of ment or tren h in their stash for every cycle they do ...
Thanks for clarification Mdes. Yea I gotcha. Gotta be more of a cost thing as Tren H and E are interchangeable. Some guys are just going nuts buying these other new compounds from this or that src and not even testing them..lol it's crazy man! Desperation like a mofo. Appreciate ya input
Probably because it cost a lot more and it doesn't justify the means in some people eyes, tren a and e is much cheaper and will provide the same gains. Plus I think he had a 200mg preparation and not sure if it had any pip or people complained but maybe could of been another reason, again I can't say for sure. I've only used 100mg preparation and I personally like it best of all 3 esters. I'm actually running it now
I hear ya. Probably so but when Ten H came out both you and I know it was at 76mg per ample. 90s guys used 1 amp 2x a week, so why do these guys now feel it needs to be dosed higher? I mean if 150mg worked back then I'd think it would work now if the raws are right.
You can use any tren at that dose and make good gains. For some reason there's a belief that you have to run 700mg to get gains. I'm using 225 mg now and the only sides effects I'm experiencing is getting big and ripped, strong, and want to smash every female walking. I sweat a little bit more too
I agree wholeheartedly bro, I’ve seen people running 700-1000mg of tren a week and it just makes me cringe. My best tren cycle was at 250mg a week. I got lean as hell and strong as hell!
As long as you are willing to pin Acetate every day, you can still use less of it and achieve a higher peak value than if you run more Enanthate per week pinned EOD. Take 560mg/wk of Ace for example - it still reaches a higher total peak than 600mg of Enanthate (96mg Vs 80mg which is reached in only 10 days vs 4 weeks for E). Simply because being pinned ED there is no big drop in hormone like there is on the day off with the E which has to be then made up for again, plus there is more tren in the ace injection per ml of oil without the big ester weight.
I usually pin ace e.o.d. too works fine. There is no real noticeable feeling. You can pin a long Ester once a week if one so choose too and would be fine. I pin e.o.d. usually because I run 3-4 different things and simply have to get everything in but if I was running TRT I take a 200mg weekly injection.
250-350mg is the sweet spot for me with Tren. No reason to go higher. Maybe 400mg if you take tren alot, but seriously....it doesn't take alot of tren to see massive strength and recomp gains. Like Big Tone I've taken higher doses...but I don't get the nasty sides everyone on here seems to get. Just night sweats. It doesn't really fuck with my head at all. And I didn't really see any extra gains from a higher dose. Lower dose is where its at.
Haha I hear ya. Smash em huh? Damn I hear alot about that killer ass sex drive it brings. Hell that's why I love good ole test! So if my stubborn ass does decide to use Tren it will definitely be in an ole school manner like 150mg dosage, kinda like u are using it.....Man I just read a statement by Larry Wheels saying he's had the worst experience ever on it and says never again. Dont know his dosage. Gotta 300mg vial of Tren E that I won from here long ago that's been collecting dust
It can be a nightmare, I've shot 600mg a week of tren e on a few occasions and my sex drive gets crushed, I can't eat, and get emotional as fk. If you dose it properly with plenty of test it's great. If someone is getting ready for a show 400mg is the max for maybe the last 4-6 weeks. I heard of guys taking 700-1000mg of tren and I cringe hearing that.
I would stay away from ment. Use EQ or deca. Ment is a progestin with serious side-effects. Itv would probably add a good amount of fat and water to your physique. I'd use EQ above anything else
I wrote something up several pages back now. I will find it, copy and paste, maybe edit a little, and make it an actual review. I wasn’t impressed personally.
website is seeming to have a hiccup. I told the IT guy (update) a certificate expired. Having to pay it and regenerate. May take 24 hours just a heads up!
Hey DC, wondering if you were bringing the dhb back? Seems like you’re the only source with it in 200mg per ml.
Anybody tried there ment aka trestolone? I'm not worried about quality I know all DC shit is top of the line. How are the gains?
I’ll be more blunt. It’s a steroid that a bunch of these no nothing knuckle heads hyped up that are looking for a miracle instead of hard work. Test e/c/p, tren a, deca, Winstrol, anadrol, your AEs and mast p. I’ll take those against anyone with an unlimited supply of DHB, MENT, TREN H, and these dumbass blends. It’s stupidity in a bottle my friend. When the remaining bit sales out, I’ll never bring it back
Makes sense lol people hyping up stenbolone now the og tried and true remain the go to's for a reason
I agree with everything you said with the exception of the tren hex. This compound in 100mg preparation is good, its similar to tren E which one would probably never feel a difference but still a good compound. All that other shit is exactly that. The compounds that been around and worked 10,20,30,40 years ago still work great. People should step up and learn how to train and eat period.
Tren h was more for the “price”, that’s why I mentioned it. I should of made that clear
Yea I figured that, that's what i said to Mr. Dwayne below it's way more expensive of a compound but same end results, basically.
Your are right though it's not worth carrying, all that other shit DHB, BOLD CYP, MENT is worthless. It's like the supplement industry, every year there's a new thing that's supposed to be superior to the one from 2 year before but it's all nonsense. Those compounds aren't necessarily "new" they just didn't make it past the trials. Straight testosterone was simply better. They may have higher anabolic rating on paper but that doesn't translate to build more muscle in real life. DHB is toxic and hurts like a mfkr and it's not "trens little brother or cousin or any of that" it's a metabolite of EQ which already builds muscle great as it is.
Lmfao....Mr. Dwayne huh? Thx for clarifying. But seriously we all need to make a separate discussion on these newer, rejected compounds. And yes folks they are rejects. All have been around awhile but alot of folks are just now hearing about them like u stated above. I think I remember seeing a dhb study vs test prop and I think u mentioned this too. I think test p showed more anabolism so don't know where dhb 2x anabolic came from. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways just my thought, no biggie
Yea didn't understand why Tren Hex was put in with the rest he mentioned. But again...OLE SCHOOL compounds stand the test of time...
To me it sounded like he was comparing the types of people , not necessarily the drugs . People who make more gains from a test only cycle vs people who have 100 bottles of ment or tren h in their stash for every cycle they do ...
Thanks for clarification Mdes. Yea I gotcha. Gotta be more of a cost thing as Tren H and E are interchangeable. Some guys are just going nuts buying these other new compounds from this or that src and not even testing them..lol it's crazy man! Desperation like a mofo. Appreciate ya input
Probably because it cost a lot more and it doesn't justify the means in some people eyes, tren a and e is much cheaper and will provide the same gains. Plus I think he had a 200mg preparation and not sure if it had any pip or people complained but maybe could of been another reason, again I can't say for sure. I've only used 100mg preparation and I personally like it best of all 3 esters. I'm actually running it now
I hear ya. Probably so but when Ten H came out both you and I know it was at 76mg per ample. 90s guys used 1 amp 2x a week, so why do these guys now feel it needs to be dosed higher? I mean if 150mg worked back then I'd think it would work now if the raws are right.
You can use any tren at that dose and make good gains. For some reason there's a belief that you have to run 700mg to get gains. I'm using 225 mg now and the only sides effects I'm experiencing is getting big and ripped, strong, and want to smash every female walking. I sweat a little bit more too
AnonI agree wholeheartedly bro, I’ve seen people running 700-1000mg of tren a week and it just makes me cringe. My best tren cycle was at 250mg a week. I got lean as hell and strong as hell!
CloUSMCI agree! Less sides more gains! I’m on 200 mg weekly.
Lmao. I’m on the same milligram as you and seems to be working just fine.
Right on my bro
RustyhookerTren a is gone in 48 hours so theres no weekly total. Running enth at 225 is strong
50mg e.o.d with tren ace is still using 200mg/week. In and out yes your correct and if your having sides they will subside fast too
I'm using 75 mg e.o.d of tren hex, feel great. Making gains.
As long as you are willing to pin Acetate every day, you can still use less of it and achieve a higher peak value than if you run more Enanthate per week pinned EOD. Take 560mg/wk of Ace for example - it still reaches a higher total peak than 600mg of Enanthate (96mg Vs 80mg which is reached in only 10 days vs 4 weeks for E). Simply because being pinned ED there is no big drop in hormone like there is on the day off with the E which has to be then made up for again, plus there is more tren in the ace injection per ml of oil without the big ester weight.
I usually pin ace e.o.d. too works fine. There is no real noticeable feeling. You can pin a long Ester once a week if one so choose too and would be fine. I pin e.o.d. usually because I run 3-4 different things and simply have to get everything in but if I was running TRT I take a 200mg weekly injection.
250-350mg is the sweet spot for me with Tren. No reason to go higher. Maybe 400mg if you take tren alot, but seriously....it doesn't take alot of tren to see massive strength and recomp gains. Like Big Tone I've taken higher doses...but I don't get the nasty sides everyone on here seems to get. Just night sweats. It doesn't really fuck with my head at all. And I didn't really see any extra gains from a higher dose. Lower dose is where its at.
Haha I hear ya. Smash em huh? Damn I hear alot about that killer ass sex drive it brings. Hell that's why I love good ole test! So if my stubborn ass does decide to use Tren it will definitely be in an ole school manner like 150mg dosage, kinda like u are using it.....Man I just read a statement by Larry Wheels saying he's had the worst experience ever on it and says never again. Dont know his dosage. Gotta 300mg vial of Tren E that I won from here long ago that's been collecting dust
It can be a nightmare, I've shot 600mg a week of tren e on a few occasions and my sex drive gets crushed, I can't eat, and get emotional as fk. If you dose it properly with plenty of test it's great. If someone is getting ready for a show 400mg is the max for maybe the last 4-6 weeks. I heard of guys taking 700-1000mg of tren and I cringe hearing that.
No doubt. I cringe hearing that too
I would stay away from ment. Use EQ or deca. Ment is a progestin with serious side-effects. Itv would probably add a good amount of fat and water to your physique. I'd use EQ above anything else
I wrote something up several pages back now. I will find it, copy and paste, maybe edit a little, and make it an actual review. I wasn’t impressed personally.
Done.
website is seeming to have a hiccup. I told the IT guy (update) a certificate expired. Having to pay it and regenerate. May take 24 hours just a heads up!