posted Tue, 11/16/2021 - 19:16
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-1 Tonkart Ali (longjack) as a natural test booster?
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I am thinking to run an Anavar cycle with 600mg of Tonkart Ali a day, as last time I pinned myself it didn't go well. Research claims it can boost testosterone by 37%. I need to shred a bit and add some 7-10lbs. Nothing major. I think this is achievable with Anavar.
Has anyone tried this combination?
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logistix1Yes I have done that and it will work as long as your diet and exercise is on point. Lower your carbs and up your healthy fats. Make sure you're doing squats and deadlifts. Ignore the trolls below in the comments. Choose the right compound for you and take it easy on your pinning next time (use a 23gauge x 1 inch)
Molinin302Look bud, I haven't been on much lately, I've been going through some personal stuff and to be honest I owe some people apologies, but this isn't the area for that. It seems, and I could be way off, you're trying to do this as "natural" as possible? If that's the case drop the anavar. That's not what the medication is used for. It's anabolic, but it's mechanism of action is more of anti-catabolic. It's prescribed to burn victims, patients with wasting disease, etc. If you're looking for an oral you're choosing the wrong one, and if you're going to use a more anabolic oral, they are not to be used alone for the purpose you're considering. All in all, drugs aren't for everyone, you should reconsider your goals. I'm not making a joke by saying you could probably attain quickly what you're after with proper diet, maybe add in some extra steak. There's a mix here of bro science and people with college degrees, it's a synergistic relationship for what we do, best of both worlds. Don't get fancy with the supplements, if you decide on the drugs get baseline bloods done and stay with testosterone for a while. I'm not going to trash you, but you're getting real world advice from these guys and you seem frustrated because you're not getting the answer you're looking for. That's because it would be horrible advice. Best wishes buddy, now unclench that jaw and fists. Probably the asshole too.
I've ran var/test cycles before. I'm trying to keep away from pinning as last time I hit my nerve and couldn't work for a week sharp. I don't necessarily disagree with the "experts", I disagree with the delivery.
"var is for woman"
"man up"
"pussy"
"unclench your asshole"
...
"There's a mix here of bro science and people with college degrees." Very few of the them sounds like college graduates, frankly.
And mod(s) are equally as immature. The fact that you keep changing my profile pic does not bother me at all. I think it's cute. You can remove this account as this is my last post on here. Thanks for all the inputs, I think I'll stick to var/test for now as I like the lean muscle mass I acquire while on it. Good luck!
Molinin302College degree here, 2 actually. AS/BS. I told you some basics on how that particular drug works, enough so where a simple Google search will confirm it. Well, maybe a step above simple, although abused in the bodybuilding community, there's much more "productive" drugs. To say "more bang for your buck".
Look guy, you're not cut out for this, I did my best to not offend you, sure I added unbleached your butt at the end. Pussy. Faggot. Punk. I guess that would lower me to your comprehension. From here on out, every post you make I just consider you a man with a paper asshole.
Google that whistledick faggot.
Anon.
Molinin302We could be insulting, I personally love jokes. But at the end of the day, he's just not ready for this. And won't be for a whole. Am I the only one who's vitals go down while on cycle? Know why? I eat like a damn Hare Krisna! Some of this stuff isn't so hard to figure out. (I may have showed my age, are Hare Krisha still a thing? Lol,) You're solid Shred. Know that.
Anon.
RustyhookerThe butthurt is strong with this tweeker....
Molinin302I'm not sure he's a noob, pretty sure he's been here before. I'm waiting for very long "praise jesus" posts to start.
RustyhookerI agree!!
TronOk, you're on the correct track. But in order to get the most out of your anavar/Tonkart Ali (longjohnson) cycle you're going to need the following supplements stacked at specific dosages that will cause a synergy effect to reach your goals. Here's the protocol...
Take each of these as directed along with your anavar and Tonkart Ali - Anavar cycle
Adrafinil25mg (eod)
Phenylpiracetam50mg( ed)
Aniracetam500mg (Ed)
Noopept nootropic capsules 30mg (e3d)
Citicoline(ed)
L-Theanine capsules 200mg(eod)
Melatonin 300mcg(once a week)
Alpha-GPC capsules 150mg(3 times a month)
Piperine + Curciumin complex capsules 500/mg (eod)
Lion's Mane Mushroom capsules 500mg(Ed)
Nicotinamide Mononucleotide (NMN) nlcapsules 125mg(Ed)
Rhodiola Rosea capsules 500mg - Rosavins-heavy
Rhodiola Rosea Root (3% Rosavins + 1% Salidroside)
Sulbutiamine capsules 200mg(???)
Uridine Monophosphate capsules 250mg( as needed)
Noocaf coffee focus bag - nootropic infused coffee(every morning)
You can get all these products for around $470-$500
Order online. Best way to go. Waaaaay better than stupid injections with stupid REAL steroids...good luck. Best wishes. And happy Hanukkah.
Molinin302Are you his daddy? Foo wants to spend his money on garbage let him spend on garbage.
Did you read the link fully? The increased testosterone that was mentioned was salivary testosterone with very little correlation to blood levels. There’s a reason why this was tested in this manor. That way a person such as yourself reads it and just assumes it’s blood levels. Most of the other improvements are all subjective due to it being how the patient feels. So while at a brief view it looks like it’s beneficial, when in reality there’s no significant benefit. Even the Authors state that it “may be beneficial.”
While the others have said it, there is your “why” of why it won’t work.
This substance has been used for centuries, yet people still use testosterone. There’s a reason for that.
It doesn't matter. Levels of testosterone in saliva may be slightly higher, lower, or equal to those of calculated testosterone in blood. So - + 3%.
I've actually been taking longjack for a week now, and I feel stronger, leaner, and have some acne just like from test. It works, quit bullshitting people. Adds 30-35 additional mins to my workouts. There are NATURAL alternative which work. I'm sorry it does not align with your beliefs, but it's all research based. Dislike all you want.
"This substance has been used for centuries, yet people still use testosterone. There’s a reason for that."
Meth has been used for centuries despite all the scary consequences. That correlation makes 0 sense. Granted, you'll get much better results with injectables, but A. Illegal B. Can induce pain for a week if you hit a nerve C. Can cause infections D. Messes up natural test level production.
Just man up and inject some test into you - if you cannot even manage that correctly then you won't last long at all in the steroid game. Playing around with tablets forever will kill your stomach lining and will not bring about any sustainable results.
Anon.
You r a weak nobody who said, "I'm done here" yet keeps arguing. Get a life.
Yeh I just saw that bud - even though I tried to help him below and reason with him Lol Looks like the aftermath of an Apache attack on here now like the end of Lone Survivor LMAO 'Multiple Taliban - Permission to engage? Permission to engage .......... DDrrrrrrrrr .......
Molinin302Don't forget the AC-130...
RustyhookerEngage goose
BBRRRRRRRRRTT!!!
RustyhookerOmg....winning
Molinin302Don't forget the liver...
I'm just doing a cycle mate.
It won't just be a cycle though bud, we probably all said that on this page in the beginning. Then what happens is you really enjoy it and experience muscle gains like you never have before in your life, everyone tells you that you look great and you are shaggin pussy left and right, and before you know it you are deciding on your next cycle before you have even got to the end of your first! Just follow the advice of what we are all saying to you - I know it feels like you are being attacked and you feel you have to stand your ground but you are just wasting time when you could be making much better gains and progressing towards your goals
RustyhookerMeth has been used for centuries
Prove it!
Just google it, angry dude.
"Amphetamine was first made in 1887 in Germany and methamphetamine, more potent and easy to make, was developed in Japan in 1919."
RustyhookerMeth.... iS NOT amphetamines bruh. Knie your chemistry
logistix1https://www.google.com/search?q=meth+compared+to+dmaa&client=firefox-b-1...
Both stimulants.
Methamphetamine = 1919.
102 years ago. That's a century.
You're always wrong.
Anon.
Are you 12? Who cares.
Anon.
Nice ass kissing. Don't forget to put some vaseline on your lips.
I brought a decent research to the table, but you took it to a personal level as you're an unintellectual, thug-bro, who only knows how to inject steroids.
Many of you are very negative on here regardless, as if you're waiting for someone new to come on so you could snap on them, call them stupid, feminine, pussy... It's ridiculous and entertaining.
RustyhookerHes gonna neener neener after pulling his 'longjack'
RustyhookerBut you dont see my forums posted asking redundant questions. And chemically there not the same.
Did I say they are the same chemically? Did I ask you to intervene and tell me how stupid, wrong and awful I am?
The question was, "Has anyone tried this combination?" There is NO way you're 25 or above.
Anon.
Quit embarrassing yourself.
RustyhookerHis normal route for salivary testosterone ruined his knee pads.
I tried a reem job on my dog but that didn't seem to work as well as milking him with my mouth.
I took a "suppository donation" from a goat, it hurt at first but I really felt euphoric and strong after he deposited his load. So, I know all natural sources work. I think a human doner boner would be best but so far I have not found a willing doner. Not even on Grindr. A lot of homeless live near me. Do you think I can get much for $20?
RustyhookerWipe your lip....thank you...
RustyhookerWont work...sorry. oral cycles are made for women
Worked for me many times before. Beautiful results.
RustyhookerI didnt reize you changed sexes. Putting that in the intro helps.
I think you need to STFU old hack. You target every newbie on here.
He’s just giving you a hard time, not the end of the world. He also is correct. (Revert back to your other post regarding oral only)
Take a step back for just a second. While the other guys on here have said it very abruptly, they still have given you the correct information. Tonkart isn’t going to do everything you are expecting it to. It won’t work the same as testosterone. The people here might be assholes about it, but in reality they’re trying to keep you from making a mistake.
I have posted relevant information or personal experience to two of your posts. If you keep trying to prove your point instead of listening, no one is going to help you.
"It won’t work the same as testosterone."
Never said it would. However, you might not even need testosterone with Var if your body produces tons of it. Makes sense to get a blood test done first. I still think it's a good alternative. As for "not listening", I don't think people who start a discussion with ad-hominem attacks deserve your attention.
I sill think this is a good alternative for those who want to go the natural way.
Anon.