Imo, basic and beginner is two different styles.

The newbie, beginner is learning all about testosterone and how to deal with it. It's about learning how to manage pinning, diet, nutrition, bloodwork, health, and estrogen management. Takes several cycles to good at managing. These shld be test only cycles, low-mid range.

Basic cycle is a simple cycle but cld fall into intermediate. It is probably ur go to cycle. It's management is easy because u know what expect and u get great results. It usually only consists of a few components. Let's be real, all these compounds shldnt be underestimated. They have levels of health issues associated to them. This cld be test/var, test deca..

Intermediate is a more complex cycle. This taking compou ds and using them for support or utilizing half lives. This cycle takes serious planning and commitment..

Basic in my opinion is one compound only and that being Test, anything else isn’t basic. I’d recommend a person run at least 3 cycles of just Test at different doses before adding additional compounds. You need to have a good understanding of how your body reacts to Test alone. After that add what you want, so long as your only adding one new compound each time whether it be an oral or injectable.

I agree with everything you've mentioned up above.

Beginner cycle: basically testing the waters on how your body responds to a moderate test only cycle 10 to 12 weeks. Doing bloods to adjust ai if needed, etc. Along with a decent diet, based off your goals and past experiences on how your body responds to surpluses/cuts. Ie, this should not be your first time managing nutrition.

Intermediate cycle: once you have learned how your body responds to testosterone( per a moderate dose), ais/estrogen control, and bloodwork. Refine, your test dose, pinning, cycle length, nutrition etc. Then add in another compound at a moderate dose, your choice based on goals, probably not tren though.

I think this intermediate cycle should be used over and over again until you've learned your bodies response for any and all new aas. Once you get your shit hammered down, add in another additional compound that should, on paper, work in synergy( no wet with dry) with the other.

My belief is, the intermediate cycle should be all that is needed if you got all your shit together( diet and training). Basically, if your seeing gains, why keep adding more and more compounds with higher doses.

Seems alot of people on eroids dont really live the lifestyle of hardwork and diet. Lots of time off and getting fat, then they turn around and jump on a crazy harsh cycle. This blows my mind!

Advanced cycles: Should be reserved for professionals or amateurs with atleast 20 cycles in their history. Along with a 100% working knowledge on how their body responds to everything they are running.

Just my 2 cents, good post

Everything I say here is my opinion and just like an asshole everyones got one

Beginner cycle: 400-500mg test E/C split E3.5days for 12-14 weeks (a plus if you get bloods like a good newb)

Intermediate: Same test dosage but add in a oral like Var or Tbol, or injectables like EQ, Primo, Deca or Mast

Advanced cycle: lets be real here people who are up in that level dont need to be told whats run so i dont wanna spoil it for the beginners here as theres an advanced cycle sub section on the forum here for any1 to check out.

What I would love to see-

People understand the risks/benefits of hormone use. And how INCREDIBLY important training intensity and diet consistency is to achieve the goals desired REGARDLESS of compounds used.

Beginner cycle Test E/C 300-600mg per week x12 wks.
Gets labs 6 weeks in, 3 days post injection, to find out steady state levels. And determine whether or not an AI is needed.

Could be done 2-3x but let’s be honest who the hell
Does that before jumping into the next best thing.

Intermediate cycle Test E/C again with an added oral to kickstart or end cycle with. Maybe addition of Proviron. And/or Possibly increasing test dose and doing labs same way to see difference of levels. And then correlate to results.

Same length of time ~12 weeks. And this could be done multiple times. Changing test dose, orals, etc.

Next Intermediate Cycle Test E/C with maybe short ester to kickstart and then the addition of another hormone like Deca/EQ/Mast/Primo/NPP etc.

MAYBE extend cycle 12-16 weeks. Again could be done multiple times. Indefinitely. Of course changing/adding orals/injectables will vary dependent on goals.

Not even going to go into advanced cycles. That, IMO, should be saved for people who make a living based on how their body looks or are competing looking to go into a pro level.

Ima traditional type of guy
Test E/Deca Monday -Thursday
500 test 250 Deca a week split between the 2 shots ...

This is basic for me

Basic beginner cycle to me is 500mg of Test E/C a week.
Intermediate would be test and deca/EQ and possibly an oral to kickstart.
Then the advanced would be the guys running primo/NPp/tren/mast. I feel like your diet needs to be on point with the mast/primo so it’s not for beginners who just wanna pack on the pounds.

What I'd consider a basic cycle is a test base of no more than 500mg with an accessory injectable in a moderate dose, whatever that may be for your chosen injectable (no tren) and maybe with an oral kickstart or finisher.