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A-fib diagnosis

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Been running a low dose test of 225mg / week (1/2ml 2x per week). With gyms and everything shut down, was waiting for next cycle.

Recently felt my heart doing a dance in my chest but having felt these before (few times over previous year), I didn't think nothing of it. Continued to a second day so saw my doc. Heart was in A-fib. Received some blood thinner (eliquis) and see heart doctor next week. Palpitations have subsided with med. I did not tell my doc I was self-dosing test.

So questions run through my mind:
Did test bring this on?
Should I stop the low dose?
If I stop, can I begin PCT or will this interact?

Thanks for any help.

mr_fishsticks's picture

I have a history of afib and have felt and monitored significantly less abnormal activity since going on .25ml t-cype EOD. I can usually feel it when I have palpitations/flutters and afib, but have a Kardia monitor that I check a few times a day.

I talked to my cardiologist before going on TRT asking about any concerns she had. Trusting that I was going on a responsible TRT protocol she had no problem with me moving forward.

As far as risk of stroke with afib... it's usually after 24 hours of non-stop afib you'd need to start worrying about stroke. Like Spark said... some people don't know they're in afib so that's why cardiologists stress staying on Eliquis for life.

Eliquis is not going to cause palpitations to subside. You may have been given a rhythm medication to help with that, though. Flecainide is an popular example of that.

Everyone's different, so definitely listen to the guys about telling your doc the truth. Losing weight is always a good idea, but I'm skinny and healthy and still got stuck with this nonsense.

KMC's picture

Welcome to A-fib.
They may start you on a beta blocker first, or go straight to a jump start (cardioversion) after a ultrasound or two. If you still have a-fib on your next ekg they will classify it as chronic and proceed down that road.

Lose some weight, cut your so called trt dose in at least half. It is treatable, and there are more procedures to follow.

BTW: waking up on the procedure table with the ultrasound probe bouncing around in your esophagus is kinda memorable.
YMMV.

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oldybutgoodie's picture

BP typically 13x/8x (was 132/84 during ekg). Pulse is 66-70 bpm resting. I am a big boy but lots of cardio at least 5x per week (weight loss). Am down from 380lb since last year.

Honestly did not get bloods prior to starting the test only. But had triglycerides, cholesterol, lipids, etc. done back in september with annual physical. Only "highs" were triglycerides with LDL borderline. I wasnt feeling energy and having hard time maintaining in the bedroom so i did that online shit with a doctor and came up as "needing" trt. Having used gear in my late 30's, figured keep lower weekly dose to help with continued weight loss, sexual performance, and energy. Only on second vial so hitting just 11 weeks of self dosing. No prescribed TRT.

I am a hospital administrator so my stress levels currently are thru the roof with COVID-19 response. I wasnt honest about self dosing as I am the administrative supervisor of the doctor I saw. The palpitations happened at work so had to be seen immediately for ekg.

I am in a little bind if i self.report the test since it will be part of my permanent medical record. While we are bound by HIPAA and internal confidentiality clauses, I cannot guarantee the info remains private internally.

I appreciate all of the responses.

Greg's picture

Low dose? A TRT dose is nearly half that.

Test can increase your RBC count. (thicker blood) I'd donate blood if you can.

Yes, you should stop the "Low" dose and go on PCT, or at least cut it in half.

Do you even know what your Test levels are?

Spark's picture

Dont think 225 mg of test is the problem. At your age you could have low t anyway. But you need bloods on this. Tell your doc that you are taking test and to do bloods for your test level.

I would take A-fib srs though. Especially at your age and weight. Get a blood pressure machine for home. Check your heart rate throughout the day. Elevated heart rate is a sign of A-fib.

"Although atrial fibrillation can feel weird and frightening, an “attack of AFib” usually doesn't have harmful consequences by itself. The real danger is the increased risk for stroke. Even when symptoms are not noticeable, AFib can increase a person's risks for stroke and related heart problems."

Bearded_muscle's picture

If your stats are correct:

You’re 44, not old but ain’t no young buck anymore

You’re 5’11” and 325 pounds. I’m guessing that’s not sub 10% bf. If we’re taking bets, 225 test a week vs a bodyweight of 325, I’m betting the weight is probably responsible.

But yes talk to your doctor. And maybe lose some weight.

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