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200 npp one crashes while other clear as can be? Any input?

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I picked up these two NPP 200 before their fiasco on who owns what.
I’m concerned about when they arrived one was halfway crashed and one was clear as can be and now ones completely crashed and the other is still clear.
My question is why is one not like the other when they are the same batch? One is just oil and the other has product or? I’m not worried about Why the ones crashed... I know how to re suspend just why they aren’t both?

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RawGonza22's picture

I've got Test Acetate exactly. 6 are crashed, 2 are not. Solid but minimal crystal. Love it. I have not thoroughly researched as to why chemical crashes; I've never heard of Pharmeceutical Cyp crash ever, Mexican pre set Sust or Stenox is what I'm mostly used to from over the border, years before I found this forum. Never seen anything crashed just til here these last few years but all in all, I've heard nothing but great outcomes of reconstituted gear. Just got to be patient hearing or shaking. Has to do with mixing ratios and temp I beleive. I'd run your stuff absolut

Big Tone36's picture

On my bottle of perrigo test cyp from wal greens say it may crystallize in lower temp. And to heat and swirl to reconstitute, although i never experienced this from cyp but i have from npp200 because higher mg. I've even seen 100mg npp crash. Unstable compound but it reconstitutes easily.

RawGonza22's picture

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RawGonza22's picture

With any new source, I'd be happy to receive crashed gear considering. I have 1 eq that smooths out easily after heating it lightly, I got this Test A 150 at a discount but it's a Fn pain. Very minimal but fuck bro, very frustrating, all good. It's been great so far. I just feel like I'm fucking it up so I had spent a good hour trying to avoid overdoing it, not at a boil for all hells snakes and then transfer it into other vials. That worked. I just had more than enough. Still got several. I'm thinking it's tough to overdo as long as I can handle the heat. The hair dryer , and hand war.ers didnt even come close to melting those Crystal's. Anyhow. It's always all good lately. I trust alot of this stuff coming out now.

Sxript's picture

Yes, and this is exactly why I came upfront and took responsibility over the brand brother

Sent you PM

Sxript's picture

Boys and girls

Crashing of nandrolone phenylpropionate at dosages of 200mg/ml is not only a normal phenomena but indicates on the potency of the solution

Changes in few percentage of the concentration may alter the "crashing" point, it's a simple chemistry, how ever I do estimate that in a freezer (-15 celzius) nandrolone phenylpropionate should crash

We may and should send any of the vials for testing with Janoshik.com, it'll be interesting and will give me as well an important indication to some issues with a former employee (look below)

No one has ever contacted me on this matter (I just saw it here and sent a FR request of course), if the member talked to me he would got all the support as we stand behind the brand.

Note - There was a controversy as some know regarding a former employee who did scam our company as well as customers, I know as a fact that these NPPs got to the customer from this former employee and not from us. Cochise who posted should know this very well, and if not I apologize and sent you a FR.

Some orders from me will land now, and you'll learn from now who scammed you and who stands behind the brand and is proud of the quality he provides

I also sent a FR to the respected member - wanted - will appreciate if you accept it

DSTER's picture

Cool, he’s talking about the one without the hormone. That’s the issue. Not the crashed one w who knows what in it.
The one one that didn’t crash in the freezer.

Sxript's picture

This issue was actually my main concern, and I addressed it from line 4 - "Changes in few percentage of the concentration may alter the "crashing" point, it's a simple chemistry, how ever I do estimate that in a freezer (-15 celzius) nandrolone phenylpropionate should crash" ....... I keep addressing it along my post as well

wanted's picture

Yhea he is like my boss. Quick to answer but not answer the question where all asking lol

Sxript's picture

I addressed it, check from line 4 and accept my FR bro

wanted's picture

Hopefully he sends ya a real one

PPGfreak's picture

I had that happen to an order of DHB where half crashed and the others didn’t. Put the other ones in the freezer and then they all crashed. So all of them were good but for some reason only half of them crashed during shipping.

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Cochise's picture

I would have been happy if the one crashed when I did that.
But no go and I had it in the freezer At least 24 hours.

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DSTER's picture

Throw the other in the freezer

Cochise's picture

That’s the first thing I did was throw the one in the freezer for a day. Was hoping but nothing happened.

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DSTER's picture

Sorry bro, bad hit

Sxript's picture

Crashing, or better saying crystallization of small % of the active hormone, is a normal phenomena in the more potent products (higher milligram/ml), I've seen it even in Watson test C in cold conditions.

  1. As mentioned below it indeed indicates on the potency of the product

  2. The fact that one vial crashed and the other not may stem from the fact that these are 2 different batches, but even if one vial was stored in a different condition, which happens in the warehouse or the transportation from place to place may cause this. Anyhow this is not a reason for concern

  3. In the new batches we use different and superior carrier and slightly upgraded formulas to prevent such issues, I also wrote on it on our SI.

  4. Just need to heat the "crashed" vial and use it with no fear - electric stove top for 10 seconds ..    shake and repeat..   in solution in 30 to 40 seconds.

Cochise's picture

Yep I will Un crash the vial with hormone in it no problem.
I get what’s going on and at least I got one good one.

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wanted's picture

Imagine if for every two bottles
they send ya one is bunk $$$$

Cochise's picture

Yep. That’s My guess.

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terciobold's picture

Good post! I read an article about big pharma..They send millions of fake medications out yearly to boost profits.. What are the ramifications for them?? Shit doesnt work your doc gives you something else...no harm no foul right?

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terciobold's picture

Well lets not forget bro theoretically if it crashes it has hormone !! Thats a good thing in my book! I had some te400 last year that all the vials were crashed...Ended up being badass test!! Lol

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stairmaster's picture

other batch? maybe a wrong BB/BA ratio or bad brewed.

Cochise's picture

Good to know man. Thanks

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