+ 1 Deca and eq
Ok so I’ll be running a decent cycle soon and still can’t make up my dam mind. I’m very experienced and don’t idk how many cycles over the last 6-7 years. I’ll be running other compounds as well switching things up etc but my question to you guys is just an opinion and last ACTUAL experience.
As most of us know and read “for those that do research eq “takes a while to build up” supposeally so you wanna run 14-16 weeks minimum. And that’s what I’ve read a lot over the years besides a few factors.
One being dave palumbo and many, many other top coaches like to switch compounds “yes even EQ” every 6-8 weeks. Now why would they say that, and then many other lbs and vets on this and other forums say that’s a fucking waste man. You need 14-16 minimum bro!!
Anyways, my dilemma is this. So i go with dave and some of the other coaches say, or with vets and unknown people on the forums. Imo just like many coach, your injecting it in you. It doesn’t take 12 weeks to get in your system. An example a coach said was you think after injecting something into your body, it’s not in you working. Makes a valid point.
So it comes down to this.
Im either going to run my eq and deca one of two ways”obviously including test and other coumpinds i won’t go into since that’s not what this post is for.
EQ 1-14 weeks at 350mg wk
Deca 1-14 weeks at 350mg wk
OR
EQ 7-16 weeks at 500mg wk
Deca 1-10 weeks at 500mg wk
I’ve never really switched compounds much. Usually just upping he dose of test a little halfway threw.
When i run either compound in the past I’ve noticed from weeks 3-10 are pretty solid then kinda fall short and stay in a plague. So there makes me think switching would be ideal.
What are your “real experience” and thoughts.
- Bookmark
- 1
- 0
StevebWhat did that guy do to himself to screw his body up like that? They even named a disorder after him.
Lmao very true, but then again we live and learn. Lol
basskiller89I would just run test e with an AI brother, my experience is I'm the biggest I've ever been solely on test
Cruise over to adv cycle group and chime in there. You’d be surprised the help you’ll get.
You’re a great example of someone responding well to moderate doseages. Looking at your physique I’m shocked you run as little as you do. How long are you planning on staying “on” for this year off you’re taking?
I’d also consider DHB. If you do plan to switch compounds I would scale up as you go. Maybe first phase EQ or bold cyp, second phase deca or npp OR nandrolone cyp?, third phase DHB. Finishing dry to see what you’ve put together over the period of the bulk.
I do think that to crack into the level of competition you seem to be aiming for you will have to get more aggressive with your doseages. Even big mr Ronnie Coleman had to so don’t beat yourself up.
Much respect for all your hard work and progress brother.
Thanks for the input. I guess they aren’t crazy dosages. When I’m on prep the tren is a little higher but excited to see what the 1000 test maybe a little more will do for me on the offseason trying to grow.
min 600mg deca, more for eq.
there is no phantom buildup for eq, its just a rubbish muscle builder compared to a deca, for example.
eq has more adverse action on the body in my opinion. deca is way cleaner.
there is no cleaner more enjoyable cycle than very low test and high deca. its so clean and sides free it is fkn ridiculous.
Try it. Your takeing a year off and your just a couple steps back from getting a pro card. Experiment and have fun. People have turned the peak level thing into it's not even in your system until whatever week. If that was true you wouldn't get erections after a week. Nohomo...I do think Rustys right on the Bold Cyp. It makes sense.
You’re in the top 5% of conditions on this forum bro, try it and see
One thing I’ve learnt over the years it’s that a guy’s physique isn’t testiment to what he knows. Some of these guys can pretty much do anything and still turn out like monsters. I know someone who only runs oral only cycles because he’s scares of needles and he looks in better condition than most at the gym.
I do agree that with some people all they have to do is sniff a weight and they look like they've been lifting for 5 years, however someone with good steroid knowledge will always have an above average gym physique as otherwise why would you be so interested in all the different compounds if you aren't eager to use and run them yourself. Not being confrontational with you at all mate just the way I view it.
Just cuz you’ve got the knowledge doesn’t mean you’ve got the drive to implement it. Look at Hany Rambod.
No disrespect because I enjoy your posts but I see evidence on here all the time that ,that statement is false. Theres alot of guys on here with decent knowledge that resemble beginners at best. This dude obviously isn't one of them. Start looking at cycle logs and self pictures. Theres guys running tren and the kitchen sink that don't even resemble body builders..
Didn’t really understand the point he was trying to make.
But ya, it’s unfortunate that even at my gym there’s guys running test tren mast all the time and you wouldn’t think it, cause they look like he average joe. Mostly because there diet and training isn’t on point or even close. It’s disappointing.
Personally I'd like to pick your brain on what your eating off season. But I'm not going to hijack your thread.
Maybe I’ll make a post soon in the nutrition section. I’ve had a pretty nutty rebound where it’s actually messing my back up that i have so much water retention and a few extra pounds of fat. So I’m gonna do a hard cut for a few to get my weight back down to around 245lbs or so(233) on show day then start bulking. It’s pretty basic stuff. I’m boring and simple. But have junk when I’m feeling it.
Nothing wrong with enjoying some junk occasionally. I like some Chipolte or pizza from time to time. Fortunately I love grilled salmon so on family day that's usually what I order.
Completely agree sam - I've seen no end of idiots running tren & M1T that can't lift a dime but we are talking about guys with knowledge aren't we? These people obviously don't have any
Youd be surprised. Theres one in particular that you probably haven't seen. I'll hit you on PM later.
No worries man - I'd rather we didn't get into debate anyway over nothing Lol Joking aside - You guys over in the US that live near a beach must be loving it, it must be awesome being somewhere like that at the moment in the summer!
I live snack in the middle of Hillbilly Heaven. Theres no beaches near this shit hole. Plenty of scenery though if you enjoy looking at pill hos. Almost Heaven bro...
Hahaha funny as....Is it like in 'Out of the furnace' where Woody harrelson is injecting into his big toe Lol..
Lmao...hilarious..+1brother
RustyhookerGo with bold cyp at 750 a week. Faster in and you can experiment with switches. Deca test eq ...sure. You said youre going to bulk only for a year. Might suprise yourself.
Of course getting hgh and raising the igf will be golden.
I have ran bold cyp a couple of times now and it still seems like it takes forever until thiings really get clicking with it. Not much different than EQ. I think it has something to do with the boldenone compound itself and not necessarily just the ester. Could just be how the compound affects me inidividially, who knows. but I really have not noticed much of a difference if any between cyp and EQ. I am more of a fan of just running EQ instead now.
RustyhookerIve been a longtime eq whore. Then i met mrs npp....oh we had a sweet affair. A few flings....
Lol
I am conderising getting another bottle of eq to run a higher dose but never ran over 375 lol I’ll have to look into the cyp though
To be honest mate with the standard of your physique and length of steroid experience I think you'll know the answer to this better than most people on here, myself included and I have 3.5 years
Haha ya, I’ll end up probably having to just pick one and do it. Only reason I’m leaning towards the dave “switch” 6-8 week approach cause I’ve never done it and would like to see if it works well for me, since i have tried both already.
Although eq i only ran 375 for 12ish weeks so it neither was probably a high enough dose and or long enough. Lol
Deca I’ve ran for 14 weeks and up to 400mg so i know exactly what to expect from that.
X2
Whatever protocol you use I would be using more than 500mg either way. Even stacking I would get at least 600mg in and I think you will get much more out of a higher dose. With my experience the switch turns on about wk 9-11 with EQ. If I switched it out at wk 8 then that switch would have never been turned on if you get my drift.
I get what your saying perfectly. And this is why “and I’m not saying for others to do” but is experiment. Thanks for your input makwa. I’ve never ran deca over 400 and eq over 375. So this will be fun to see.
You have time to test it out so who knows you may have a blast switching them out. We do have to keep in mind tho that these pros are super responders to AAS so pretty much anything they do with AAS will produce phenomenal results compared to the rest of us. If you respond pretty well to pretty much anything it may be your ticket then. For me personally I just don't think it would work for me.