New to the Game and Want Some Feedback
Hey guys,
So I first want to start by noting that I am new to these forums as well as any hormone use. My stated goal is to lose fat and go for an overall recomp of my body. From knee-high to a grasshopper I was a soccer player; even playing in my freshman year of college. At that point, I was 175-180 lbs and had relatively low BF%. I dropped out of college because of an opportunity to start a business with a very good friend. We raised $30K in investments, got through all of our licensing requirements, and are now fully operating our business. In the process, I abused my body: daily fast food; multiple times a day, and no exercise. Needless to say, I gained a fuck ton of weight and right now I'm a fat shit.
I went from 180 lbs to 240 lbs.
TL;DR
I am now looking to loose weight, fat, and look like a god again. For the past couple of months I've been doing extensive research and here is my plan. I want your feedback as well thoughts about what to look out for, what to keep in mind, and how to be as responsible as possible while I am on this trek.
Weight: 238 lbs
Height: 5' 10"
Lean Body Mass: 175.5 lbs
BF%: 28%
Current Resting Metabolic Rate: 2452.8 Calories
Target Weight: 215 lbs
My goal is to lose around 30 lbs of fat while simultaneously putting on 5 to 10 lbs of LBM; effectively cutting my BF% down to around 15% while simultaneously boosting my lean body mass as to avoid losing all that weight just to still be "skinny-fat".
My plan is as follows:
Diet at a 400 Calorie deficit to my current Metabolic Rate and adjust as necessary over time as I evaluate once foreign agents are introduced to the body. Daily exercise is a given @ 30 to 45 minutes of high intensity lifting, 15 minutes medium intensity cardio (bike; alternating bike and core), and 15 minutes low intensity cardio (inclined walk < 2.5mph) daily. According to a fitness professional I've been consulting with, this should give me an extra 650 to 725 Calories burned daily; putting me at a net burn (including RMR) of around 1100 Calories daily.
I plan to stack the following (cycle of 8 to 12 weeks):
Clen (2 weeks on; 2 off)
SARMs (Osta: duration of entire cycle)
Test-E (Enanthate: duration unsure)
Any and all OCS needed
What are you guys' thoughts? Is my plan solid? What should I be doing to ensure that I'm being responsible? And what else do you recommend in place of this if this is something you'd highly advise I not do? What on cycle supports are highly recommended? I know with such high BF% i run higher risks of the hormonal sides.
PS: all of my blood levels are normal per a blood check done less than 30 days ago.
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Late response but most everyone here is right, First, most generally consider age and 25 has proven out to many to be the sweet spot before even considering using gear, that said, for those who are not so open minded, it is important to keep in mind medical conditions you might have which could support earlier gear use, such as Testicular cancer and already being on TRT since a small child, or any other normal medical conditions driving the need to modify your overall endocrine system. The second issue rarely addressed is the age/legality of some gear used, most limited there view of what FDA and the US dicdate is able to be used or prescribed when around the globe some of prescribe some very substances ban here in the US, so, my short point on those first two comments are, age is a number, more info is needed, and don't believe the limited minds of only US experts on whats good or bad based on what the FDA says.
Now that all aside, the rest of the post are right, you need to get the base part of yourself in good order first, get your lifestyle, eating and training at the right point, push yourself, not for a week or a day or a month, but for a year, or two, or more, before trying gear. Using this stuff given where your add will show little to no, or any, results. And your body wouldn't even be ready to take advantage of them as it currently exists. Focus on self improvement in weight loss, diet, training, etc... than revisit the use of gear man.
Negative brother, seeing the increase in bf% and weight gain from poor diet and such means in my opinion that you should rethink the whole game.
Its a marathon not a sprint. Your expectations are not realistic unfortunately in the compounds youd run. I think you should start over like you havent ever had a day of training in your life and develop healthy habits.
Not being a dick, this is my version of constructive criticism. How about a good preworkout and utilizing the above training regimen you've discussed in your post. Youd be amazed how far that alone will get you.
PS After using said compounds since youll most likely do so even with feedback from us, whats your PCT look like? How do you plan to combat rebound estrogen after cycle or recover natural test? Any ai on cycle? Are you using anything to keep the clen effective during use due to down regulation? At the bf you're at i think aromasin is much more advantageous for you in the fact that you may have more aromatization. Just food for thought.
Just like backing a trailor out of a tight drive way you just pulled it into.
You have to do exactly opposite what got you in there.
You say you quit running a marathon every day and started eating shit.
Every ones got you below. Drugs arent the answer here .
Start running your soccer marathons and eat clean again.
If you cheat with drugs you will loose all when the drugs are gone. get the routine and food right.
eat less, sprint more
forget the juice
basskiller89maybe some apple juice after sprints for cortisol?
Simple as that. Really dont know why people complicate things. Save money, time, and most importantly, your one and only body.
Absolutely Roly. Funny thing is, if you do exactly that but spend time hitting the genetic potential; you are quite literally primed for something special if you then decide to go down the AAS route.
At this point you don’t need any AAS or chems or sarm. What you need is good ole fashion diet and exercise and drink plenty of water.. more calories burned than taken in = weight loss
Roids dont burn fat. Sarms shut you down the same as roids. As everyone has told you, you need a diet and cardio program bro
I agree with everyone else here, gear isn't for you at this time. You first need to get your diet, and training, and cardio down....for a few years, then maybe you could do a cycle. Depending on your goals, and really thinking through all the risks and benefits of aas use.
Okay thank you. I will stick with the Clen and SARM then. I appreciate you guys lookin' out.
RustyhookerNoone said clen or sarm. Clen damages the heart valves. Clen hasnt been made in bout 20 years either so youre getting ephederine. Which ruins heart valves.
Being heavy in fat already has its issues to your heard.
See? I actually didn't know that about clen. You learn something everyday. Always considered clen, t3, winny, masteron, etc. as compounds for pros at a competing level. Suerly never considered them and research I lack a bit due to lack of interest.
Hey awesome you're actually talking their advice. Sarms are ok, but clen is serious. I don't know much about it to give advice, but I do know it's dangerous. Research and listen to the vets here. There's tons of Great knowledge here.
RustyhookerAge: 22
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 238lbs
BF:
At 22.....?
Damn, noticed everything but age. You're right. Sarms are a tricky subject. My chickie tried and loved mk2866. As do plenty women I've met. Gains are minor and suppression is little to none in short blasts(4wks), but long cycle use has shown suppression, so yeah not a good idea at 22. Clen I know nothing about, but the little I know says "hell no!"
In my opinion, gear is out of the question here, especially seeing that you are listed as 22 years old in your stats. You should develop a low calorie, lean diet to cut down and produce muscle in the process and of course research different workout routines of high intensity to increase your metabolism and lose that 30 lbs of fat stated in your goal. Gear is for people in tip top shape and stuck at rough plateaus, I believe you can achieve your goal with hard work and dedication if you really want to lose 30 lbs. Best of luck brother!
You don't need to use those kinds of compounds to lose weight, a solid, low calorie diet combined with a ton of cardio is what you need.
What is your diet like now?
What are your Macros now?
Imo bf is way too high, for starting with gear. First you have to optimize your diet and training...
Also delete the brands name, it's against the rules posting labs or shops in open forums.
Like hit man said delete all the source/brand names out ASAP before you get hammered. There's no need to list anything but the name of a compound you propose to use and dosage/frequency.
Welcome to eroid delete brands names
There’s no magic pill you need to work on your body fat first
Diet hard train harder sleep good
Do hitt cardio will shed your fat
You should not touch gear right now
You need to focus on your diet instead
Sorry for it being long winded. I just wanna get this right.