posted Fri, 02/09/2018 - 10:29
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EQ and its full potential.
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Here's a great read on EQ and how when dosed upwards of a gram a week has amazing benefits. I'm going to try this out for myself in April. Test E 500/wk EQ 1000/wk Deca 500/wk.
Can anyone attest to EQ at these higher doses? Would like to hear people's experiences.
http://www.ironmagazine.com/2012/boldenone-realizing-its-full-potential/
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Hell yea! Eq was my bread and butter leading up to my competiton.
900 mgs per week
I was happy with what it did for me.
There is something about eq in your system after it gets rolling. I never want to leave the gym and feel intense from the beginning to the end of my workout.
brick topi have never used eq for cutting, how was it? what other compounds did you use?
endurance was the number one think especially on big leg and back days. I could always motor through drop sets on exercises such as the leg press and t-bar rows when the calories weren’t there. I ran it with tren and test. I never noticed a lack of endurance with tren that some people report. Perhaps because the eq was always in the mix.
brick topsounds good, i rather use eq as a bulk i think, did you manage to cut a lot of fat with this cycle?
Yes sir. But that was all diet.
I've ran it years ago. Only I had test highest eq a tad lower than the test and DECA lower. Also had drol.
Had thick blood and crazy high blood pressure I remember laying on couch shaking for a few days by week 16 or so.
I'd say mast is safer and more superior and you don't need to run it as high or as long.
I'd just run a higher dose of test with mast and get better healthier and crisper results.
Personally I’ve never needed more than 600mg of EQ per week and I’m not an advocate of high dose cycles... unless you’re making a living off of competing and it’s actually necessary. I prefer to keep my test low around 200mg/week and whichever other compound I’m running around 400mg/week. Including EQ. Run for 16 weeks. Less is more when diet and training are solid. Your body will thank you in the long run.
EQ will likely be in my 2nd blast, did you donate blood during your run? DO you PCT or are you TRT?
RustyhookerFor a second cycle? I wouldnt. Id perfect a test only since its always a base.
Yes. This attitude is excellent
Agreed!!! /\ /\
I've run EQ several times and I'll mirror some of what was said already. Personally, I really like EQ but it is a slow starter. Aside from a front load, I've never gone higher than 900 mg a week because at 900 mg, my blood pressure got too high and I had constant headaches.
If this is your first run with EQ, I see no reason to go higher than 600 mg a week. I've always enjoyed 500 mg of test with 600 mg of EQ. After running that cycle several times I bumped it up a little and went to 900. My favorite EQ cycle now is 525 mg of sust with 900 mg of EQ with a two-week front load. If it's your first run I see no reason to go higher than 600 mg but the following is a link to a cycle I run several times with 525mg of sust and 900 mg of EQ with a 1200 mg EQ front load:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust...
As rusty said, donating blood in my opinion is a must on EQ both before and around mid cycle. I never use EQ for less than 20 weeks because again it is a slow starter. That said, I do find that a front-load helps speed things up just a little bit.
I personally don't see any need for deca in this cycle unless it was to assist with joints. When I run Deca or NPP for this reason I see benefits with 200 to 300 mg a week.
Good luck with your cycle pal!
I was reading this part and couldn't decide if he was talking about his optimal dosing range for EQ, or just the average user's optimal dose. I Just thought it seemed really high, especially the way some in here have discussed the high blood pressure and increase in Red Blod Cells that come along with this compound. I will be taking EQ for my second cycle and have been researching the hell out of it for a while now. My thoughts were, 20 weeks @ 400-500mg/week, but now I'm not sure if that'll be sufficient.
I read some studies similar to this explaining how this compound is a lot more effective at higher dosages. Seeing as how I get zero side effects even at 900mg It’s something I plan on experimenting with.
X2.
900-1000mg been most for me but looking forward to pushing the envelope a little more with it.
Keep us posted.
Will do bro, I’ll be starting it soon
Fr sent
I liked my EQ 900mg it was very very slow!! But man I loved it! a drive that could just go and go on the weights for high repetitions.
To be honest I don’t see the point of adding Deca into the mix the EQ does good work over the 18-20weeks
When did u really start to notice the EQ? And what was your cycle and gains from it?
Hunger hit long before I noticed positives of the EQ it was prob weeks 14ish I started to see steady lean gains and by week 19-20 I was up 26lbs and getting complements about my noticeable lean size increase.
You can checkout my cycle I did with blood work.
Take the others advice on consistent blood donations and have an arm band to take your bloodpreasure readings regularly.
If blood pressure starts rising up take 5HTP it does work for me.
Definitely agree with the hunger.
5HTP huh? I’ll have to look into this. I just started week 5 of my first EQ run (630 EQ and 225 Test cyp) and hadn’t heard of 5HTP for blood pressure if it becomes an issue. Do you take it before bed? I heard it can make you a little drowsy. Or am I mixing that side up with something else?
Thanks for turning me into something to research +’s
Hi D,
be careful with 5-htp it's not something to be taken lightly.
I tried this as an alternative to my depression medication.....the sides were comparable to prami.
Also if you have healthy serotonin levels it can cause a very serious condition but I can't remember the name of it
Thanks brother. Yea I don’t know that I’ll be trying it. I have hawthorn berry, beetroot and a baby aspirin. So far my blood pressure has been perfect. Then again I’m only 6 weeks in.
I appreciate the heads up buddy.
Beetroot juice is probably THE best thing to take year round mate. I have a pint a day everyday.
Also if you like it celery is excellent for controlling blood pressure....4-5 sticks a day on cycle.
Stay safe bro
Beet, Carrot, Apple, Ginger. My favorite homemade juice of all. I try to have it 3 times a week, its delicious.
Thanks for the celery tip, I'll try it
No problem mate....all a good source of nutrients
It would make me slightly tired but nothing you can’t deal with.
But yes 400mg before bed is what I ran it at.
Had some high bp problems on a cycle and ran it along with donating and got it back in a safe range.
Heres a post about high BP with a lot of good comments
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/blood-pressure-help
Thanks for the +
Awesome when I'm on tren my appetite goes to shit so it really hinders gains I force fed my self for weeks so I'm done w tren from now on. I'm excited for this appetite increase from EQ. Where is your cycle log or do I have to become friends to view it? Either way FR sent
Yeah appetite is necessary. And good deal fr accepted!
Check out my post under my username shouldn’t need to be friends. I only have 2 lol
I believe eq is the most amazing and versitle compound there is. I cant run really hi doses,anymore because of blood pressure, but I have in the past had some great bulkers with it ranging from 700-1000mg and 16-20 weeks. Ive. Also used it for lean mass and to flat out cut down. EQ can help you do anything, all you have to do is put the right dosage of the correct ester of test in the cycle with the most important thing a dialed in diet planned,specifically for your goal and of course your training. Guys that suffer though the sides of tren and stay completely miserable on it should look at some,different ways to use EQ. Just takes a little more patients and being strict about your diet.
Did u take anything for blood pressure? I'm on norvasc for bp now cause tren jacked me up I was thinking that would help on the EQ
I can’t handle over 400mg of eq without having really high blood pressure. If your body can more power to you. Drop the deca.
I would consider using test and eq. If your gonna take a big dose of something to feel the effects than don't take something else meaning deca. Than you won't know what worked or didn't like. Skip your deca experiment for next time. Than you know exactly what high dose eq does for you and or against you. Just be safe as possible and keep tabs on your health. You have one body and one set of organs to last you hopefully 80 years.
That was my original plan EQ and test with a dbol kickstart but figired I'd add the deca heard good things on running both compounds.
Im 12 weeks in 900mg/w of eq, first time using it, its very week compound and you need to be patient, in the end it gives you very lean and clean muscle, also vascularity and strength is up but didn’t notice appetite increase as everyone talks
would be interesting to run 2g
I’ll be running almost that much in a couple weeks
Fr me. I never got the appetite either from EQ until now.
RustyhookerIf youre eating properly you wont get crazy hunger. But the back pumps....ugh! 500mg taurine helps a ton
can you please explain what back pumps mean please, thank you
RustyhookerLower back muscles get pumped up til it hurts. I usually feel it when walking quickly for long distance or on back day during rows.
it’s because of EQ? now I understand why my lower back hurts so much
RustyhookerYes sir. Taurine at 500mg helps. Some days 500mg am and 500 pm.
Research taurine. Its a neat suppliment.
See I was hoping for that increase in appetite. But I am looking forward to the clean keepable gains down the road!
basskiller89I think 2g of gear is a bit excessive for 235lbs
Are you 100% sold on Deca?
Not sold on deca but tren is out of the question from now on haha. Deca was a promo and was just going to add it in
Since you have had a bad experience with the tren I wouldn’t add in the deca as it is also a 19nor compound. I would give that a break as mentioned from some of the other guys. I would definitely try the EQ/Test combo. Maybe throw in an oral if you want to throw in something else. EQ is one you’ll have to be patient with but the results are worth it.
basskiller89I would consider saving the Deca and just running Test + EQ if you wanted to try those dosages out. Have to see what works best for you though
RustyhookerAgree! Spend the rest on extra foods
basskiller89100%
A cycle like that should invoke quite the appetite I would think
i hope the keep track of there high blood pressure at that amount