Dbol..when to dose
Ok so there are a lot of mixed reviews on this topic the two being, 1 dose all at once an hour pre workout, 2 space it out to obtain stable blood levels. I was curious if some pros can help me on this I'll state my cycle below.
Weeks 1-15 Test cyp 600mg/wk
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-15 Adex .5mg eod or ed
Week 18 pct protocol
This is my third small cycle over the years but first time with an oral. I have 100 10mg tabs of dbol so figured I'll run 30 mg/day till they're gone. Question is should I dose 30mg pw to get the full effect or dose a small 10 mg 3 times a day? I plan to start within one week.
Stats
Age-27
Ht-6'
Wt-215
Bf-17-19
Diets good but been slacking on starting my meals early enough I seem to cram them in late night to get my nutritional goal(I'm sure on cycle I'll be hungry af all day so that will get fixed)
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BF 17-19 percent been slacking usually means 21 percent. You got no disipline. Get your shit together, throw the dbol in the trash. Run a good test only cycle with an on point diet. Your results will be exponentially better. You lack discipline, gear doesn't change that!
Remember years ago when I took only 25mg of pink dbols a day and I blew up like crazy orals seemed so much better 20 years ago.
i see some replies here saying 30 mg is a low dose.. honestly if its good dbol thats plenty bro. i ran it at 20 mg a day and got some amazing results. i took the two tablets broke them in half spaced the 4 doses out evenly throughout the day and rolled with it. that worked for me may not work for you. alot of people say pre workout cause youll get an insane pump from the dbol but if you keep the blood levels stable youll get that anyways. keep an eye on that estro dbol is known for some high estro problems get bloods pre cycle mid and after pct.
the halflife of dbol is between 3 to 5 hours, if yourr not sure what halflife means its how ling it takes the body to clear half of the dose
example: you take 10 mg at 3pm by 7 theres only 5 mg in your system then by 11pm theres 2.5 so on so forth every 4 hours half of whats left will be cleared from the body i go with 4 hours because its right in the middle could be closer to 3 or 5 depending on your bodies metabolism.
Didnt state low dose if in reference to my comments, i said measly because it is. Orals are toxic, any deterrance against them is a good one, if he agreed to dropping dbol all together the safety first message got through and he would of ran test only.
No lie there. I've had 25 mg a day blow my blood pressure through the roof. If it's good, 25-30 mg is more than effective.
I 100% agree that if OP has good Dbol, 30mg should do the trick. Having not used it before, I'm surprised people that are experienced aren't suggesting "go slow." That's always been the mantra I have been taught.
http://anabolic-bible.org/anabolic-steroid-info/steroid-profiles/dianabo...
RustyhookerSearch halflife of dbol.... post answer
You need to watch and adjust your ai as needed. I wouldnt be running adex for 15 weeks straight. As with any drug half life is key. Personally i wouldnt even bother with a measly 30mgs of dbol for 30 days, sides may out weigh benefits. Infact id be inclined to drop it, run your test and add in your ai about week 6 of test " if " you need it at that point, bloods will tell you, again adex dose will be ran accordi g to half life and imo used for minimum amount of time, much better for you. Pct protocol is?
Pct is hcg nolva and clomid. Most likely going to start hcg on week 8 at a moderately low dose (500iu) twice a week up until nolva/clomid
Sounds good mate.
One in the morning, one an hour before workout, one before bed. You want stable blood levels. Be sure to start taking liver support now. I suggest liv-52, milk thistle, and NAC.
RustyhookerExplain the halflife. Your answer needs help.
With the short half life of orals, you will only have half of your given dose left in your body by the time you take your next dose. When you take your final dose of the day, only 1/4 of your first dose will still be in your bloodstream. Loading up all at once will give you a crash and Rollercoaster your levels. You are looking to maintain a stable quantity in your system and the best way to do that is to split your doses up in equal quantity both of active ingredient and time.
RustyhookerGuessing then since its 4 hour half life you're dosing 8..12..4 ?
I split doses by 4 hours increments
He isn't left with a lot of options to dose precisely at half life mark only dosing three times a day unless he wants to take 5mg at a time, with pills cut in half. Dosing any more often is impractical. One in the morning, one pre workout (assuming he works out in the evening), and one before bed should do just fine, as I stated. If he works out first thing in the morning, one at wake up with other supps, one at mid day, one before bed would work as well.
If you have the luxury to dose precisely every 4 hours, then good on you. It just isn't real world practical for the majority of the world - myself included.
I did not suggest to dose at 8-12-4, I merely explained a bit of halflife, as you asked. What do you suggest he does for the other 8 or so hours he is awake if you prefer every 4 hour dosing?
EDIT: I feel my solution is the best that can be provided for real world practicality with the tools that he has at his disposal that he has suggested. In a perfect world he could take 1mg every 45 minutes, but that just isn't practical.
With only 100 pills, because of the split dosing, I would opt upping the dose to 40 or 50 mg per weekday (weekends off) for 4 weeks.
40 or 50 is my sweet spot, personally.
With him having not ran it before, I personally see nothing wrong with 30 / day, however.
Will taking it spread out like that still give me an intense workout vs all at once?
You will be just fine. It will be less of an all out strain on your liver, more stable levels through the day and night, and think of the gains you'll get with the additional levels when you sleep at night - rest is just as important and you will stay more anabolic 24/7 with the short half life.
Either way you do it, you will see great size and strength gains. It is a good kick start for sure, until the cyp kicks in. Be prepared for a little more bloating than with test (it will go away in a week or two after dropping it), and be aware that this AAS does aromatize. If you have a family history of male pattern baldness, this will not be the most friendly to your hairline because it is DHT derived.
I'm dht prone but dbol don't cause me any problems,30mg is gtg