+ 3 Did EQ crash e2 after only 10 days
So I started my first EQ cycle two weeks ago today.
EQ from Anabolics Fast
Dragon Cyp from EuroKing
The Layout looks like this, will probably switch to dragon enanthate soon though
First two weeks: 540 EQ & 225 test cyp split m/w/f
Starting the last saturday (2 days ago) and moving forward: 630 EQ & 225 test dosed EOD (I like to keep volume down)
last wednesday, only 10 days in, and at that point, only 5 pins (the 5th being that morning) I was feeling drowsy and my libido was down. felt like I had low e2, so I went and got labs pulled, and my e2 is crashed.
I know boldenone has a metabolite that is an AI, but would it get me after only 10 days? I thought it took a couple weeks just to kick in, let alone metabolize into something else?
Normally I've been needing 3.125mg of aromasin ed on my trt dose (or 6.25 eod). I only upped my trt dose 50mg, so I was keeping that the same. How in fuck would my e2 be crashed?
I have some EQ from another lab on hand as well.
Any insight would be awesome. Unless your advice is only the obvious "drop the AI"... I'm not an idiot.
At least I know why I've been so moody now, though.
EDIT: NEVERMIND... I'M AN IDIOT!
EDIT 2: UPDATE... Nope, i'm not an idiot. EQ actually crashed my e2. Figured out the right test dosage for me. Bloods here: https://www.eroids.com/pics/dragon-eu-batch-test-e-eq-labs#comment-278818
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Always look forward to your uploads bro. You love a rollercoaster life sometimes! Hope it smooths out
Lol yea man already feeling better. Couple shots of prop and HCG did me up. Never touching that lab again lol
Dominick77hey bro, the lab you talking about, is it from AnabolicsFast bomb?
That was the EQ brand, but i don’t thinknit had anything to do with crashing my e2. It was a winny/aromasin mixup. If you read below we figured it out
That’s not the lab I’m never touching again. Shoot me a PM for that. I don’t wanna blast a lab in the open.
Or you can just look at my pics. You’d figure it out pretty quickly.
Dominick77I gotcha bro, I was a little confused but am all good now lol thanks. I appreciate you and I am sure others do as well for taking the time to inform us of this. Thumbs way up
Thanks brother. I don’t think I have a ton to contribute overall, (aside from the fact that I like to research to an obsessive level lol), but the one thing I try to always do is to post bloods often to help us learn and hold Labs accountable at the same time. Always Glad to see people find it helpful.
Never sell out bro. We need member like you.
Thanks brother. And not planning on it. Sad part is it was the same 2 bags of pills that caused an issue again. This ones on me tho. I shoulda tossed em after they turned out to be winny.
Just grabbed some Winny from a lab we all trust. No more risks!
And again, thanks brother. Those words mean a lot coming from you.
Hey I just saw your thread and glad you figured it out! You will feel much better soon!
Thanks brother.
RustyhookerGet your blood donation in order bro.
After reading below.... possibly the eq mild ai is enough with aro to crush it. Definitly odd.
Already got everything lined up buddy. Gonna donate and get another round of bloods in 6 weeks. Along with checking my blood pressure EOD. And winny/aro mystery bottle is going in the trash as soon as I get home.
Thanks man.
RustyhookerYou guys already handled it. Easy stuff with teamwork.
EQ wouldn't crash your estro, especially if pinning it in conjuction with test. I have ran EQ solo based on it has a small conversion rate into estro (appr. 20% or so). You need estro to grow so it was a little experiment I was running. Can't see it crashing estro. Something seems off here. How much AI are you using?
Just 3.125 mg of aromasin a day. that's what I use with just TRT dose and my e2 is right in range.
I think I know what happened now...
i forgot to mention the winny that ive been taking the last 2 weeks
I am not aware of winni being a mild AI. It is dht based like provi/mast which do have some mild AI properties but I have never heard of that with winni. I would suspect crashed estro on top of winni would really make you feel like dogshit.
I had two bags of what was supposed to be aromasin, but it turned out to be winstrol. (didn't lower my e2 and gave me all winny sides/strength, then i did a labmax and it showed as winstrol). So I assumed BOTH bags were winny and mixed them together in a pill bottle...
The pills are the identical color and from the same lab. I'm guessing the other bag was actually aromasin, and that I've been taking a mixture of aro and winny. which explains why i've been having crazy back pumps and feeling great some days, and feeling tired others.
Probably taking asin when you thought it was winni. Estro is crashed so know you have to bring it back up. That can be a tough process. Throw out that mishmash of winni/asin. I would get on some prop at like 100mg EOD for at least a couple of weeks without any ai and get retested. Gain train is at a stop until you get your estro fixed.
Agreed 100%. I convert e2 at a pretty high rate so it shouldn't take long to bounce back. Especially with some prop mixed in for a couple days.
Glad this got fixed bro! Heres my only piece of advice, pharma ancillaries always, no questions, no problem;)
you can go with dbol if you have in hand ,itshould bring you estro back pretty fast!
Thanks man. I don’t have any on hand since I don’t really play well with dbol. I can manage the e2 sides but it’s more trouble than it’s worth for me. It would be a good strategy if I had some though. Nice tip.
no worries buddy I just have the same trouble before ,I changed mid cycle from adex to arom and screwed my estro ,felt like crap! I was lucky I got in hand some old dbols worked like a charm ,in 3,4 days felt better!
When was the last time estrogen was checked. From there think about all testosterone and brands. Eq I wouldn't think would decrease your estrogen. Change aromasin brands? Different testosterone brand? I would rule out eq as the culprit. Did u take or forget to take either?
I've been using the same testosterone and the same brand aromasin for about 8 months now. Last time e2 was checked was Jan 05. Test was 1400 and e2 was 16.7. That's when I was taking 6.25mg ed, so I skipped a couple days and lowered my AI down to 3.125 (yes I've litterally been cuttin my quarters into eighths)