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Before I started cycling my weakest bodyparts were chest and shoulders. Ever since hopping on they blew up which amazed me, I kept diet and training basically the same prior to hopping on. Anyone else experience something similar?
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If they are lagging when you are off cycle the first thing that you need to do is have a knowledgeable individual critique your form. If your form is off, you very well may not be fully activating these muscle groups. If that is the case, they will always lag, regardless of how much training you put in.
Maybe at your age you should be training an obvious weak muscle, your brain.
Damn lol
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Hello Sir,
We really hope you are aware exactly of what you are doing with your body. By writing these comments you make yourself sound a bit silly and inexperienced.
Regards
Bearded got it. Traps, neck, shoulders, and upper chest have a very high concentration of androgen receptors. Thank evolution for that; those are the “dominant male” areas. They’ll hypertrophy as a direct result of using steroids. If your biceps or calves happened to be your weak point, I assure you the same thing would not have happened. If you use enough stuff, even your jawbone will grow.
Seriously, your jawbone is saturated with androgen receptors, and bones can and will hypertrophy if those receptors are filled. That explains “tren face.”
Lesson’s over, young man. No more steroids for you.
I've never heard of 'Tren face' before - is that a term people use? GH jaw but not that one
I just used it. I think I read it in something about Arnold using tren and it showed his face, and how it looked different because of its masculinizing effects.
I think the jaw bone grows because we have to chew so much . How big would every thing else get with 1200 reps a day.
The Masseter, Buccinator, Pterygoid, and Temporalis contract in tandem to chew, the jaw bone does not. Bones cannot contract. The mandible itself grows because of the androgen receptor saturation in males. Hence the square jaw look in men.
Ugh. Buccinator sounds too close to Baconator. Now I’m hungry, and I don’t even eat that shit.
they will probably blow back down once you are off.
At your age your natural test should be quite high so wait a couple of years like these lads are telling you , you'll thank them later in life
Maybe your training routine was more effective cause steroids also increase focus, bloodflow and water!
Now read the rules and come back in 2yrs !
Come on man & do the right thing & stop using gear & use your own test that your body is making.... you’re gonna ruin yourself young.
What would you recommend for someone looking to grow in these areas in particular. I tend to lag in them. I’ve been training them for years. Sometimes 1 time a week sometimes 2 week. Drop sets, pyramids, reverse pry, iso holds, press, compound movements you name it. What adrogenic compound have the most effect on these areas in your opinion?
I suggest finding someone with a very well developed chest and asking them to critique your form on chest and shoulder exercises before you do anything else. Form is everything with these and simply adjusting where you grip the bar can be the difference between fully activating your chest and not activating it at all.
It’s 100% biologically impossible to perform a meet legal raw bench press without activating the chest. Cannot be done. Physically. Ever. I’ve seen plenty of people with amazing chests who have no idea how to properly bench press. That’s genetics. I’ve seen people with beautiful pressing technique with barbells and dumbbells with terrible chest development. Genetics. We’ve all seen those people who build great physiques in spite of their training, not because of it.
If anything, find someone with a degree in biomechanics or kinesiology to teach correct, safe technique, or someone with a strength and conditioning certification (not a PT). If we’re going by “take the advice from the guy with the biggest ___” we’d all be taking Lee Priest’s advice on arm training and look just like him. It doesn’t work that way.
Besides, asking the guy with “the best chest” for pressing advice might just be buying a one way ticket to snap city. He could be teaching the guillotine press for all you know, a classic shoulder destroyer that happens to activate the chest very well… at a price.
Honestly, I wouldn’t recommend any compound. It’s all in diet & workout. There’s some great workouts for those body parts under the exercise & workout section.
Unfortunately, and no one ever likes to admit this, genetics play a far bigger role than either training or even diet.
Some might view that as pessimistic; I believe accepting that fact is an important step towards accepting one’s shortcomings and shedding unnecessary insecurities.
It plays a lot to do with how easy it comes, but I’m from the old school where if you want something bad enough you won’t make excuses & you go get it. I agree with you to an extent, but if you lack in those areas do whatever you have to do to increase them. They won’t look as great as the guy with genetics, but you don’t have to except the fact that yours lag behind & they always will.
Improvise, Adapt & Overcome
It’s not an excuse to give up. I never said don’t work on weak points. That should be done just from an injury prevention standpoint. But obsessing isn’t healthy. Beating yourself up isn’t healthy. Feeling insecure all the time isn’t healthy. There’s a middle ground where someone can accept that his ___ will never be the best in the world, but it can improve, and that will be motivation enough to keep pressing forward, sanity intact. Unless it’s something that really can’t be fixed, like a micropenis, or a limb deformed from birth or via an accident, but that’s a whole different subject.
Within reason! Site enhancement has its own slew of health risks, and I don’t recommend it for anyone save the fiercest of high level competitors.
I don't do any site injections either. People injecting into their biceps I think are crazy and it ruins the shape eventually. My new motivation is to see how muscular I can get on 125mg of test a week for next year with 2iu of gh. I don't care what I weigh. I'm gonna push as hard as I can and take pictures every month. Gives me a goal for the year
I honestly do not know how people can mentally inject into the bicep - the thought of it makes me cringe esp as you use it in almost every movement in life so if it swells its gonna be agony for days!
It doesn’t just affect the shape from a cosmetic standpoint, scar tissue and site enhancements actually negatively impact the ability of the muscle to contract maximally. So it saps performance as well. For someone looking to get muscular without abusing the hell out of steroids, uh, getting strong and performing well in the gym is pretty important to say the least. We all know this. Well, I would hope.
Hey bro I understood ya my friend & I wasn’t saying you were making excuses... I was just using that as an illustration. I agree you on the concept of not beating yourself up & obsessing!
I grew up always being an under dog & having the odds stacked against me, so I’m different I know. I was really try to say if you have a disability you can overcome it with heart & perseverance.
Jesus man don’t talk like that. Your gonna send me to a bridge.
You don’t need amazing genetics to be the best version of yourself. Just your genetics.
I got good genes.... they are from Abercrombie
If you train and still fit in abercrombie skinny jeans, you are clearly doing something wrong.
Ha oh no bro. I only fit in their wide legs because they are wider than most other companies I’ve found. Skinny jeans and I are black on rice. That shot don’t mix.
They still make those?
Haha not sure but I have two pairs and they are about the only pairs my legs fit into.
You might want to look into stretch fit jeans. Banana Republic and Lucky Brand make some nice ones. They’re like male jeggings but not super tight. A little pricey, usually north of $100 a pair. I don’t know how much you care about fashion, but they’re definitely more, um, contemporary than Abercrombie.
Ha I’ll check them out. My thigh are 28 so they are big mommas.
Your only 23 you dont need to be cycling at all. Lay off the cycles and learn how to eat
You double posted.
Anabolics are supposed to impact the shoulders and traps more than other parts of the body because of the higher concentration of androgen receptors in these areas, might spill into the chest area too.
Now get off the gear little one and drink your milk. You’ve got growing to do.
I honestly didn’t know that. +