blood test results, testosterone, feedback welcome
Hi all !
Just got blood done in mainland China, checking for Test and other hormone levels. I will go back and talk to the endo but we don't have a language in common and even when we do in China, discussions with doctors quickly get frustrating, and docs allow a few minutes per patient only, which get easily wasted when using an interpreter.
Also the normal range indicated next to the test results give a lower limit than the range on some western website I just checked so my results are probably more alarming for a westerner.
i'm a westerner, 44 y o, and starting to consider TRT, or if I decide to do AAS cycles wether i should go through PCT or just cruise afterwards at a TRT dosage. Only doing HGH at the moment, 4 IU a day and some OTC supplements.
besides i ahd another blood test done a few weeks back checking a bunch of paramateres and all were in the normal range.
The resuts come in ng/ml, i'll multiply them by 100 so it comes (if I'm not wrong) in ng/dl which should be more familiar to you guys.
Also i did ask specifically for free test levels but they don't seem to be available.
Testo : 401 ng/dl (that's also 13.90nmol/L which appears very near the low end of the acceptable range)
FSH 165 mIU/dl that's very low even on the local range, which shows 127 to 1926
LH 298 mIU/dl
PRL 10.89 ng/dl
E2 2700 pg/dl
About TRT and and HPTA suppressing cycles, i'm reading about guys my age very happy with the results so I'm very curious but while from here it's fairly easy to find gear apparently, I do a couple of long travels per year, one lasting 5 to 6 weeks, and can't travel with testo without prescription, so that sounds like an issue.
Training wise I've been back lifting for 5 months only (practiced other sports the last few years, as a doc advised me not to lift heavy ever again following a slipped disk, but other sports brought their share of injuries... so back lifting) and while I've put on 12kgs (it looks like mostly muscles with probably some fat and water), and i've actually never been bigger, my strength is way below where it was at 30 weighing 14kgs less (training natty back then, following a powerlifting routine. Took a 14 years break from lifting after 30...). Now 97kgs (213lbs) for 179cm (little below 5.11) I've used AAS before btw, in my mid 20s, without AI nor PCT and ended up with gyno. Had surgery 10 years back, and I suspect not much if any of the gland is left considering how the nipple area gets inward.
if any of you more knowledgeable lifters care to chime in and comment, many thanks, I'll use your input when going to the endo , as well as later down the road.
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JchThanks guy for your replies !
I read several of the threads of TRT section and noticed beforehand Eroiders were on a more cautious side than members of other forums. It's good to get a balanced view. Many rave about how good TRT make them feel but some feel far less enthusiastic, and trying to get off it sure looks harrowing.
Since starting this thread, I checked into alternatives and decided to try long term clomid treatment to increase test levels, so it doesn't shut HPTA and can be stopped without issue when traveling.
Do you reckon there is a risk also to mess up with my HPTA doing so (the reason i saw it advised is because it doesn't) ?
JH, do you mean HGH could have impact on TRT results (i thought it didn't), fwiw i intend to keep on doing HGH except when travelling, might do other peptides as well, like IGF, Thymosin Beta and BPC 157. Keen on anything that can make me feel stronger and less injury prone without much side effects, particulary without shutting down HPTA.
had another bloodcheck a few weeks earlier btw, checking hematocrits and a bunch of other levels and all came within range
Had in mind to start an aas cycle, possibly after summer holidays, will mull over that as well, Thanks for the warning Makwa. I can easily find time to cycle during the year, TRT is a bigger issue, when travelling to countries very strict on medicines, sometimes even strict when one has a prescription.
Zeus, thanks for the encouragement, very keen on lifting further . I used to like it a lot, and would have started again earlier without the doctor advice against it. Just need to avoid serious injury, I played a lot of tennis and some golf the last few years and it's been a mess injury wise. i'm surprised Lifting is doing so well so far - doing lots of low reps compound exercises, although the strenght is more that of a 40 kgs lighter amateur powerlifter so far. possibly the body was keen on packing muscle.
JHAs Makwa already pointed out from your blood work, you’re possibly at the cusp of being dependent on trt if you go on now and not have a good PCT outcome. However it could be a little deceiving due to you being currently on growth hormones.trt is definitely a lifestyle and not for Faint of heart if you’re going to bring it upon yourself so make sure that you have a script from a physician if you’re going to go that route because it’s not going to be fun traveling if you’re doing underground Trt.
Here in the states your doc probably wouldn't put you on trt with those levels. You are on the lower end but not low enough to be put on TRT. Your HPTA is fragile now and running a cycle could easily damage your HPTA beyond repair now. Keep that in mind if you ever decide to run a cycle. You could now be pinning for life which becomes a chore and it still doesn't give you the same feelings as natural functioning HPTA. Something just always feels off.
We're happy to help. Do you have a specific question? Or area of concern? Obviously, you know your own traveling schedule better than anyone else, so if you cycle, you'll need to plan accordingly. As for TRT, it's a life sentence. It's not all it's cracked up to be, and you'll learn that if you spend any time reading the OVER $) TRT section of this site.
Be sure to use the magnifying glass in the top left of the page to search for questions, key words, etc. You'll learn more than you thought possible!
Also, i want to encourage you to KEEP LIFTING. It's the best thing a human can do, male or female, to live a better life, imho. Be safe with the HGH, too. Good luck, and be sure to ask specific questions if you want input!
Awesome reply my friend!! You’re a good man :-)