+ 1 First Time Using HGH during cycle
Hey guys. Just looking for some direction since there are so many ways to go about this. Let me first give my stats:
33 yo
5'9
Currently 210 9% BF
Yes diet is in check and training - I have a reputable coach for my off season and prep regimen
Been cycling on and off for a bout 7 years. I just never really was able to maintain and be consistent with the gains because life kept getting in the way (kid, divorce, bankruptcy, lay off etc lol) But for the past year and half I have been fully committed to this lifestyle and did my first show in October. (Placed 2nd ) Next show is end of June next year.
Currently I am awaiting my first pack to land. I plan on taking 4ius ED.
Question 1 - I have seen a few different pin regimens. Some say ED....some say 5 on 2 off Which is best and why?
Question 2 - Is there a peptide that would increase the benefits of HGH use? IGF-1 is a little on the expensive side (about as much as my hgh from the source) But specifically other peptides like GHRP-6 etc. Funds aren't endless lol But if you had to include ONE peptide. Which would be the most bang for the buck.
Thanks for the guidance fellas
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Ed is the way to go. 5 on 2 off is for financial reasons. I think 4iu all in one shot would be better because it will yield a higher igf-1
I have never actually heard anyone recommending all in one shot. Unless it was like 2ius. I was always told and seen people say to split am/pm.....interesting
If under 5iu hit it all at once
Thank you bro!
right before I go to gym is when I take my slug of it.
Good to know. I just find it amazing as the numerous different approaches. Some say right away in the am. Some say right before bed. Split..dont split. lol. I guess its a lot of trial and error to find how your body responds best. What exactly makes you pin before a workout though. That one is knew to me. I have heard t pin insulin prior to a workout. But I'm nor ready for that yet.
Right away in the am because they say gh will stunt cortisol and your body’s blood sugar is at its lowest. Before bed because that’s when your body heals most/will be without food longest/I’ve never seen a study when you lose your natural pulse at night, half life is short and your natural pulse comes at stage 3 of sleep, and what’s your natural pulse, maybe an iu, if that? I’d rather have 4iu’s to heal me up at night than 1.
Whatever you choose, just get it all in, probably won’t see a huge difference
Here’s a good read
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2294131/
Awesome. Thanks for the read!
I like to pin it then since my meal with carbs was about 2hrs prior so I don't have to worry about them interfering with GH (some say it does some don't so I just play it safe and keep carbs away from my dose.) Don't like it at night because that is when I get a natural pulse of GH. Might as well get some free GH instead of blunting that natural pulse. It doesn't give me a better workout, but that seems to be the most convenient time to do it. Plenty of ways to do it. just do it when it is convenient for you.
Thank you for the info! I guess it really is just a game. Try it a few different ways until I see what my body responds best to. Again thanks! Random.....but why can I not thumbs up anyone's solid advice. My karma too low?
You can give karma when you reach 50
I talked to a few people here who have experimented with GH using different protocols and even using bloodwork to see if there was a big difference. Conclusion: It doesn't really matter when you take it. No appreciable differences. What does seem to matter is amount and not timing or splitting doses. So don't sweat the small stuff and just pin it when you can.
Very good to know. I appreciate it!
Screw peps. GH and IGF are the way to go if you are serious about this.
Thanks! I have just been hearing more and more about peps. Its like the new flavor to cycles lately. But IGF would be ideal. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something out there that was a CLOSE substitute for it that would provide some usefulness.
I’ve seen Labs of mk677 boosting igf pretty well but I have no personal experience with it.
I look forward to these answers as well. Good forum.